JohnL

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd pretty much have the same order as DTR. M&B is > just plain awful, which is another reason why when > the newly refurbished C&G re-opens the food > offerings will be crap compared to the Half Moon > who have a proper and well renowned chef on site. > Another own goal for Dulwich Estates. Unless it's how they plan it :)

Dave

I suppose the 'ever' in the poll means some could say there is an event (4 minute warning) or something where they would. edit: no doubt someone has a better excuse somewhere.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Both are far enough away not to qualify as my > local.. > > Anything further than the G.G. roundabout is too > far.. > The sort of distance I would consider popping > back home from if I had forgot something. > > Foxy or pop back to the pub if you forget all your stuff I've done it :)

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > "If this was a government project, heads would > > roll." > > > > Har de har har. Do you read Private Eye? > > Government procurement is legendarily awful. > > I suspect if it were a government project, it > would probably still be stuck in cycles of > feasibility studies. Perhaps a few junior PwC > consultants would be buzzing around, working on a > "business transformation and streamlining" > project. It is - they're building a listening station underneath. It's to spy on Trump.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yet still huge numbers of non-English brits and > the so called liberal thinkers of the middle > classes go on with this utter tripe about > illiberal England and nasty English nationalism. > Pure prejudice, ironically I was always warned about it in a way that said if English nationalism comes to be the UK will fall apart and Wales will be on it's own at the mercy of the Crachach (the english speaking welsh did not trust the welsh speaking artist types in Cardiff then). So self interest of English speaking Welsh people really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crachach

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > State collusion in terrorist killing of catholics > has been the subject of a British enquiry, been > proven, and furthermore the British Government has > apologised publically. Yes publically. Of course they did - some horrible dodgy stuff went on. You only have to google FRU and Stakeknife to read up on some of it.

craigmelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Slight observation ... the "ashamed to be English" > "OMG i'm way more liberal than other parts" > messages smack of intolerance #IRONY I'm Welsh - but our fans can be just as bad. But as a Welshman I see the anthem of England as Jerusalem not GSTQ

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, but many of those flags will also have a > Union Jack in one of the 4 corners of the St > George flag. > Also, they will sing the National Anthem many > times during a game, Rule Britannia too. It's been > reported that the England fans (I use that term > loosely) didn't sing any songs about the players > during the Germany game, instead it was all > anti-German/IRA, nationalistic and xenophobic > singing and chanting... I did see a tweet saying English fans sing anthem German fans applaud German fans sing anthem English fans boo

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it English Nationalism? The headline photo of > that article shows Brexiteers flying the Union > Jack. The main proponents of Britsih nationalism > have always been the English with parts of Ulster > and the West of Scotland thrown in. For whatever > reason(s) the English have always found it easier > to identify with being British than English. The > British national anthem still gets played for > England teams at most sporting events. The other > Home Countries have got their separate identity, > so it will be interesting if the Union does indeed > break up to see how the English re-identify > themselves... I think they already are - it used to be the union flag that got flown at English matches - and gradually changed to flag of St George.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I thought the Thameslink delays were down to a > broken down train around Kings Cross? > > Anyway... after standing on a crowded sweaty train > for over 1hr, we all had to get off the train in > the middle of nowhere and walk it. i caught the bus (after seeing the train cancellations) and got caught in the Blackfriars Road delays (and walked) There's no way round it except cycle.

Police are naming and shaming those charged now - The operation seems to be called Operation Vocare http://news.met.police.uk/news/seven-charged-following-op-vocare-arrests-217146 http://news.met.police.uk/news/eight-arrested-in-moped-enabled-crime-operation-224983 Lots of them seem to be in conspiracy to commit burglary and robbery - and the second list contains 'immigrant offences' (we don't need that at the moment) Edit : Unfortunately it's North London LOL - where's ours ?

And somehow this effected Thameslink too - no idea why Maybe in sympathy

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm feel increasingly estranged from most of > England, outside of the Capital. It feels insular > and regressive and ever more illiberal. Maybe time > to move to Berlin. I was always told English Nationalism is dangerous for everyone (as a Welsh boy). Back in those days (for all the banter) the Celts were careful to keep British/English as rather similar.

DuncanW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Looks like the former Dead Dolls House/Clayton > Arms is to become the Prince of Peckham > > Good Luck to them - that's been a difficult pub to get footfall recently. The only pub I've ever been in (pre Dolls House) where nobody was there (including staff), just me.

Cowbridge in Cardiff has always been an upmarket desirable area.

Farage and Hopkins really should shut up. Robinsons a lost cause.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see that Farage has already been all over US TV > saying that's its't he result of uncontrolled > immigration. Hasn't wasted a second in exploiting > a tragedy, the odious little sh*t. Yet I guess from police comments this morning the guy was British born (or at least here a long time)

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Arlene Foster is going. > > Yes - haha - that really is not significant. > > I have to say, the person who I think comes out of > the whole MM transition with greatest respect is > the Queen. The Queen does have reason to hate McGuinness - Lord Mountbatten (not the best of people himself) was a bit of a mentor to Charles etc. I wonder what the Queen secretly feels.

Arlene Foster is going.

Although when I was at school it was still taught as the British Empire was a benevolent empire. My parents didn't disagree with that either - I think it was received wisdom up to the 80s - which became entrenched to some extent. The Germans never at any stage pretended the third reich was anything other than evil after 1945(as it was self evident)

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > According to some sources the guy named by C4 > news, the "hate preacher" Abu Izzadeen, is > actually in jail at the moment for breaching bail > terms. He does bear a superficial resemblance to > the pictures of the attacker, but other than that > there doesn't seem to be much reasoning behind it. His wiki page now says sent down for 2 years in jan 2016 That rumour just flew across the media then removed just as quickly. Just shows as mentioned above - but some of the news said the police had named him too.

(name removed as every newspaper has just done so) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/abu-izzadeen-london-terror-attacks-westminster-who-is-he-police-politicians-a7644626.html Named very quickly by Police (edit: apparently as that's been removed now too) Edit: added source as that Wiki page keeps changing If this wasn't the guy how did a load of newspapers report it and Channel 4 then pull it

Police Officer dead and other officers injured Sky reporting.

bob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not confirmed > Bob S No not confirmed - but I'm not changing my plans - which are working late.