Peckham native

Lived in SE15 for 50 years and Mum has been here for nearly 80 years (went to Adys Road School) and it's always been On-dine to us and all our neighbours

Had a meal there for the first time Saturday. Service was good - friendly and they were there when needed. We all had 3 courses & wine and came to about ?35 each which I thought was reasonable for what we had. Food was simple but tasty. So overall a place I would go back to except for the NOISE! It was full on Saturday and we had to shout at each other across the table. I know Green had problems with the acoustics and they haven't been solved by Locale. I like to be able to have a conversation while I eat - a real pity but I doubt I'll be going back soon.

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thunder Road: you ain't a beauty but hey you're > alright. > > Was at the Emirates stadium last night. Bruce is > The Boss of me Thunder Road - probably my most played song of all time. Going through my head at the moment Rendezvous and Fire - both Springsteen songs performed at the Paris show last week

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The problem is the crime though.Living there you > are more aware of the truth of the matter and I > note the camaraderie on this Forum which is to be > applauded:)...(as I wrote a piece a few minutes > ago I heard of the 2 French students who appear to > have been burned to death in New Cross,a murder > enquiry is underway)...Its the scale of the street > crime. > It is so ridiculous when people defensively say > "there was a murder in Salford last week" or > "there was a murder in leafy Surrey 4 years > ago!"..the truth is that you are much more likely > to see or hear about street crime in Peckham or > Walworth or Kennington or Camberwell than if you > live in The Suburbs.Recently(currently lol) my > damn window will not shut in my car..I have parked > in various places since then locally with no > problems at all.Maybe I will come down and park it > around Peckham for a couple of weeks and take my > chances.:)...Do you reckon that I will get away > with it there M8?:) > P.S.Watch over that allotment-there has been an > outbreak of allotment theft recently! It was on > the front page as the headline story in my local > paper:)..Who said the Suburbs were > crime-free!..Bleedin' Teefs and Tealeeves:) Funny you should mention that but only 2 weeks ago there was a car parked in our street with both its front windows open. Now I thought maybe it had been stolen & dumped but it wasn't listed as stolen. It was like this for perhaps a week but then it was moved to a different spot with windows closed & intact. It is still around. So obviously it belongs to someone local. I have also on more than one occasion forgetfully left my car unlocked, once for several days, and all has been well. I once parked my car for work (Walworth) and must have dropped the car keys by the car door. When I got to my car in the evening there was a note from the road sweeper that he had seen my keys and taken them to the local depot - a box of chocolates went to him. I honestly don't feel like I live in a dangerous crime ridden area. There are a few alleys and paths I would avoid and they are the same ones I avoided when growing up here in the 60's. I think you get a very different perception of an area reading about it in the press than actually living there.

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All(virtually) of my friends come from > a Working-Class (invariably) South London > background.They wanted to improve their life and > left "Inner" London accordingly.They wanted to > move to an area with like-minded people who wanted > away from crime-ridden areas(YOU decide which ones > they are-I have my own views formed since > 1965). Tony I also come from a working class background as do many of my friends. My family have lived in south London for many generations. In the 60s some aunt & uncles moved out to Kent - they could buy a decent sized house with a good sized garden. They are still there and relatively happy although do comment on the increase in crime. My side of the family have stayed in Peckham. I must say I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I want to live in an area with 'like-minded' people. People who don't judge you on what colour you are, what class you are, what job you do. I've got that here. I have the best neighbours possible. A Jamaican family who have been in the same house for over 40 years. They always look out for me and I get plenty of freebies from their allotment. Of course there is crime but I'm glad I live in a vibrant, diverse neighbourhood where I know my neighbours and we look after each other as is evident on this forum.

Can I also point out that if you do decide to live in the area of Peckham that is now called Bellenden, and for whatever reason you want to avoid Rye Lane, it is highly likely that you will be closer to Lordship Lane/East Dulwich Station/Denmark Hill Station/Sainsburys than a lot of people living in East Dulwich!

I've lived in Peckham for nearly 50 years, my mother still lives here and we go back at least 3 generations living in Peckham. I now live in the Ondine Road area which really is the same as East Dulwich except it's closer to East Dulwich Station! Walking around the area in the evening it appears to me to be safer than say 10-15 years ago if only because there seems to be more people about. Rye Lane is obviously very different from what it was. I had a Saturday job in Jones & Higgins shoe department - a wonderful old department store. We used to go to the Equator Eating House for cola floats! Choumert Road was a great market with Lou Jacobs the fishmongers, a great pet shop, huge newsagents (Parkins - I believe they retired after winning the pools)and various stalls selling everything from fruit & veg to flowers. I don't shop much down Rye Lane now but not through any fears for my safety.

I'm afraid this is only about third hand but my mum's neighbour's child has been going to Bellenden for a couple of years and is really impressed with it. I think she also couldn't get into her 1st choice etc but is now very pleased to be there. Good teachers apparently. I also went to Bellenden but that was over 30 years ago so I think it's changed a bit since then!

Thanks for all the comments about the Southwark Alliance map! I am one half of the graphics & mapping team but I'm afraid I can't remember if I or my co-worker produced this particular map as it is about 5 years old. I also can't take all the credit for the placing or misplacing of stations and names as the map data is taken from the Ordnance Survey data. I can confirm that the Southwark Alliance areas are based on the Community Councils which are in turn groupings of wards.

The Dulwich Estate - who own much of Dulwich The Dulwich Estate

So sorry to hear that PGC.

I understand the family that live in the house right at the end of Ondine Road (front door in Ondine but windows in Adys) helped dispose of the cat. So PGC you might want to give them a knock if your cat hasn't turned up yet.

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To me this just looks like another MLM (Multi level marketing) product. Any product website that has more about how to become a 'distributor' (and make loads of money) than info about the product is very suspicious. Just a few steps away from a pyramid scheme.

If the houses are empty you could try contacting Southwark Council Empty Homes Initiatives. [email protected]. is the email address of the manager. They do a lot of work in tracking down owners and "encouraging" them to improve their homes

There is no way I'd cycle through Burgess Park and I've lived in Peckham all my life. A work colleague was attached last week at about 6.30pm. Knocked off his bike and a dog set on him.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The of an era. Tilt Estates really were a > successful and predominantly family run business > for years. I remember the old lady well, and god > was she strict with her rents! Yes, one of my earliest memories going with my mum to the Tilts offices and down into that little office with the rent book. One Christmas the old lady handing over a wrapped Christmas present although can't remember what it was. Certainly the end of an era.

Foxtons 0% offer just dropped through the door. First 200 who instruct them to sell their property and sell it before 21st December pay no commission.

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As far as I can see they've done wrong but I > believe the punishment should benefit the > community if possible. Anyone know what the > maximum fine imposable is? They did wrong by not applying for planning permission. They legally put this right by applying for retrospective planning permission. This was refused and they are appealing against this refusal. They can only be fined/closed down if they lose the appeal and then carry on trading.

Caffe Nero haven't 'got away with it'. They broke the law by not applying for planning permission. When they were 'found out' they applied for retrospective planning permission which is the normal way these things are sorted out. They were refused retrospective planning permission and are now appealing against this decision. Whether they win or lose this appeal will not depend on the fact that is was a retrospective application but whether the reasons for refusal were sound. I would imagine they have quite a good case as it was refused at planning committee against the advice of the planning officer in charge of the case. Retrospective planning permission is not at all rare and not confined to big businesses. I noticed a planning notice outside the small cook shop almost opposite caffe Nero applying for, you've guessed it, retrospective planning permission.

As a born & bred SE15 person 'The Lane' will always be Rye Lane and it was always "I'm just off down the Lane" or "I'm just popping up Lordship".

Wonderful news. A great start to the weekend!

Live in Ondine so will keep a lookout. Cats seems to migrate to my house so hopefully... If you need any help with posters/flyers in doors let me know.

Thanks everyone for your concern about this cat. It is becoming a minor celebrity! Ive been in contact with 'upland' who is very keen to take on the cat with the understanding that there is a chance that a owner may still come forward. I'm going to do another blitz of the area with a flyer this evening to see if I can find an owner. I think this is very unlikely as the cat isn't just a visitor but is living in my front garden. I will keep you all updated of developments.

Hi Paula I'm pretty sure I know your cat. When this cat first appeared many weeks ago I did at first think it was your cat visiting but I then saw yours and realised they were different cats. This cat has no collar or nick in the ear. It has been permanently in my or next doors front garden for over 6 weeks. It sleeps under my hydrangea bush or under next doors bushes and always appears whenever anyone goes in or out the front door. It never goes through to the back gardens and I've never seen it anywhere else in the street. It literally is here all the time. I've even got up in the middle of the night and opened the front door and it's there. I've contacted local vets, Celia Hammond, Battersea etc and they don't have any similar cats reported missing in the area. I'm going to do another trawl up & down the street this evening so you'll probably get a little flyer through your door.