Louisa

If you want to take any information from polling, look at some of the key marginals (limited data this election), but it seems quite clear that in classic 'mondeo man' land- where Blair won with considerable ease during his years of office, the Tories are a country mile ahead of Labour. The big problems facing Labour don't stop there, they are also splitting the unionist vote in Scotland more so than ever, which will help the SNP retain what they have. They also need to get turnout amongst the under 25's over 70% to even come close to a score draw (hung parliament). Will that happen? The jury is out, millions of youngsters have registered to vote, but will they bother to visit the ballot box on June 8th? For Labour to win this election they need the stars to align, much as they did for Trump in the States. He managed to galvanise working class votes in marginal states, evidence thus far doesn't show anything remotely similar happening here. Louisa.

oliviaandmilo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are you surprised? Big difference between the two > towns! I've lived in peckham twice! Different if > asking for Fish/ Meat(sides subject to check!) You're taking the mick aren't ya? Surely? Louisa.

Anyone who works for the police could have told you she was a train crash long before she became prime minister. The Fact she will still wipe the floor with Labour at this election is surely enough to tell even the most enthusiastic Corbyn supporter that their direction of travel is the wrong way. You would hope. Louisa.

I love how the state of the polls, yes the polls. Remember them? Have somehow managed to convince even perfectly logical forum contributors to believe that now the race has tightented. These are the same polling companies who said Cameron/Miliband were neck and neck through the last campaign, and were catastrophically wrong. The same polls predicted Clinton would win, and that Brexit wouldn't happen. Come on people. A handful of polls does not alter the fact that Labour are heading for disaster. May could stand their in a clown suit and propose a 80% tax on food, and she would still scrape home in this election. DO NOT trust the polls, in EITHER direction of travel. Let's get this over with, and get a decent Labour leader in place so the party can rebuild itself around someone electable. For the sake of democracy, if nothing else. Louisa.

nxjen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, the "I was only joking" defence Ok calm down, you'll get your praise from the usual suspects soon. Louisa.

Rose79 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How do I know the dog walker would not > attack me or the dogs. We live in very > unpredictable Society now, all you have to do is > switch the news on to realise that. And the above statement summarises perfectly the point KK and I were initially making. Rather than look for the best in society, you make some dubious and peculiar comparison between calling out someone for being rude and ignorant in a public setting, with the state of our society today and how it's unpredictability (what that means I have no idea?), could result in something terrible happening. Yes horrible stuff does happen, does it happen all the time? NO, chances of it happening to you? Extremely slim to none at all. As a society we have become extremely insular, why not embrace others in the community and look for the best in a bad situation? The lady who rudely didn't acknowledge my letting her pass the other week, may be a lovely person having a bad day. Maybe she felt bad afterwards. Who knows? I'm not going to hold it against her! Look for the best in people and maybe they'll respond in a positive way. Louisa.

Ahhh but you see - the key difference is, I do almost always confront situations head on. Very rarely do I walk on by. The other difference in this context, which nxjen subtly fails to acknowledge, I was just dealing with a fairly lighthearted moment of ignorance, which was on a mostly tongue in cheek thread. You Rose79, made this thread to specifically call out a specific dog walker for what you believed to be a serious intrusion of your afternoons privacy in the park. Both completely different scenarios being compared, undoubtedly self righteous EDF finger waging effect. Do you get a gold star on this forum every time some historical post of mine is dragged up to whack me around the head? Very tiresome. Louisa.

Perhaps my choice of words has been misunderstood. My version of confrontation, doesn't have to involve shouting or being rude to someone, it often means happily approaching someone with a smile and just requesting that they do something about a situation they are/should be, in control of. What's more worrying, on this forum, is that many of you fail to make that connection. Hence people like the OP and others, would rather rant on here than confront a situation head on, thus potentially preventing a similar situation from re-occurring. I think it ludcrious that some seem to jump to the bizarre conclusion a dog walker may pull a knife on them, it's just crazy thinking. Sorry but that's my opinion. Louisa.

Where's your advice Lynne? Or are you just here to sneer at people? Louisa.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > So the dog was trying to take food? It wasn't > > showing aggression or frightening people? > Wouldn't > > it have been a good idea to calmly call the dog > > away, and take it back to the owner/dog walker > and > > then confront said individual there and then? I > > don't understand why people find it so > difficult > > to confront situations as and when they happen. > I > > appreciate it isn't always possible, but it > > certainly helps to avoid future problems from > the > > same person. > > > > Louisa. > > a)What makes you think the dog would follow a > stranger? > b)What makes you think confronting the person will > lead to a solution? > c)What makes you think it should be normal for > everyone to be confrontational? > d)On what basis do you conclude confronting this > person will make things better and not worse in > the future? a) what makes you think the dog wouldn't follow? If this person is so horrified that a seemingly un-threatening animal is being annoying, why not hush the animal in a gentle and friendly way back to its owner and laugh it off. b) it doesn't have to be a horrible confrontation, it could be a friendly encounter. She could loudly make the dog walker/owner actually realise that it's not OK to let this happen. c) you, like others, assume confrontation has to be a 'bad ' thing. It doesn't at all. d) and on what basis do you think it won't? But simply choosing to ignore, and not actively seeking a solution, the same will happen again, will it not? Now, why don't some of you on here, particularly those who come in screaming me and others down for "attacking" the OP, actually contribute to the situation by offering some handy advice for future situations like this. Some people just like to shit stir on here. Others think doing nothing is better than resolution. Louisa.

Peckhampam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well done Louisa, for starting off an attack on > Rose 79. Get a life. I didn't "start an attack", I simply requested a reason as to why this person didn't feel the need to take action there and then, rather come on here and talk about it? As others have pointed out, there seems to be a culture of fear developing in this world when it comes to using common sense to deal with day to day scenarios. Louisa.

So the dog was trying to take food? It wasn't showing aggression or frightening people? Wouldn't it have been a good idea to calmly call the dog away, and take it back to the owner/dog walker and then confront said individual there and then? I don't understand why people find it so difficult to confront situations as and when they happen. I appreciate it isn't always possible, but it certainly helps to avoid future problems from the same person. Louisa.

Your nearest decent department store is a solid mile and a quarter away. Louisa.

Well I'll be going in to see what's changed. I am enjoying my longer walks after doctors orders. It's the perfect summer time spot, let's just hope it's not been ruined with a unsympathetic refurb. I look forward to seeing some of you there! Louisa.

The news from Manchester is awful, and prayers go out to everyone involved. But terrorism happens on a daily basis around the world, often never reported in the media. Do we stop going about our business every single time something awful happens? Maybe timing wasn't great, but let's not jump to conclusions. I'm sure it was not intended to be offensive. Louisa.

Was it you with this pram by any chance? Louisa.

It is my recent experience - it's not fabricated. What's your point? You're the one turning it into a rant because you can't resist the option to goad me further on a comment on a fairly light hearted topic, which I've already admitted is partially tongue in cheek. If you're having a crap weekend don't take it out on me. Try contributing to the thread, instead of making a mountain out of a molehill about my post. Shame you don't invest that time pulling up others on this forum who say some pretty direct and horrible things to others. I am NOT looking for a argument here, just wish to be left alone. Louisa.

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For goodness sake, does every single thread have > to degenerate into an attack on people who were > born more than a mile from Goose Green, Louisa? > Pure prejudice vented on the slightest pretext. Or maybe in the spirit of the thread, I was acknowledging a recent experience with a loud ignorant person (who I've met more than once over recent years in ED) who was knowingly ignorant for no apparent reason? Slightly tongue in cheek, in the spirit of the thread, and also partially serious. Why not contribute to the thread rather than concern yourself with my opinions? Very predictable and yawn. Clearly presses a button when I talk about the elephant in the room. Louisa.

When some ignorant self righteous mother on a phone, who you've just stepped out of the way for to let her and her oversized pram pass by on the narrow footpath of Adys RD, refuses to acknowledge your goodwill by saying thankyou, kiss your arse or anything else. Ignorant cow. Bugger off back to Clapham! Louisa.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > An appropriate name for yet another cheese on > > toast factory. > > > > 'Made of Dough' > > > > When are we getting this Greek place we were > > promised? > > > > Louisa. > > Not happening. Old Jaflong still up for sale. > > Foxy. That's bloody disappointing to say the least. The one cuisine type we seriously lack, and it now won't be happening. Any idea why Foxy? What alternatives are on the table? Louisa.

An appropriate name for yet another cheese on toast factory. 'Made of Dough' When are we getting this Greek place we were promised? Louisa.

A vote for Labour is a vote for your local MP, it doesn't have to be an endorsement of Corbyn. He will likely remain leader regardless of the drubbing he is likely to receive. A vote for the Lib Dems sends no message to anyone about Brexit, even if they were to return to the heady heights of 21% in the popular vote, their influence is minimal. Louisa.

All this posturing from May is pathetic. It feels like we've turned the clocks back 30 years. There's absolutely no need to play party politics over such a significant issue as this, we need to prevent her from being given the mandate she so desires. Louisa.

Untie the hands of the police and judicial services so tough and appropriate measures can be taken to prevent these people from being a threat to our communities. Big issues around funding too of front line services which this Government has a lot to answer for. Some people are good and others are not, it really does come down to the basics with this stuff. Lots of people have had a tough upbringing, most didn't go on to commit crime and attack innocent people. Others choose that path, and I don't believe we should waste resources trying to figure out why they do this stuff, we need to just remove them from the community to prevent them from hurting others. Louisa.

It's good to have perspective put on these things, but in reality, it is on our doorstep and it takes incidents such as these to often shock us as a society into doing something about it. The police have their hands tiedin more ways than one. Firstly, the overall budget has been significantly cut which emboldens criminals into thinking they have a free for all in certain neighborhoods. The opportunistic types such as those scum on mopeds stealing phones are prime examples of that. Secondly, the police are often marginalised and left to feel like the bad guys because of do-gooder types always coming down on the side of the criminals. Unnecessary investigations into police conduct, light sentences being handed out for violent crimes, even after extensive work has done by the police to get hold of these scumbags and take them off our streets. All you hear on forums such as this are people saying crime has fallen, everything is rosy and lovely, chances are it won't happen to you or us. That's not the attitude to take, we should be clamping down on these people with a heavy hand, untying police and judicial hands. Working as a community to confront these people with all resources available. Stop with this light handed approach, it's clearly not working. Louisa.