Louisa

It's not just about me though is it *Bob*? It's about people in general being allowed to communicate on a forum without favouritism occurring. I didn't even have anything to do with this! Louisa.

And yet not one of your, nor Admin, says anything about my name being dragged into something when I'm not even communicating with said person and they infer I am troll. This forum is packed full of double standards, and YOU admin pick and choose when you think it's right to allow people to be disrespectful to other members of the forum. Let's all remember, I was banned for a negative indirect comment, this person and others have directed negative comments at myself and no one eye lid was raised. Sums this forum up perfectly. Louisa.

Easy to say that isn't it Pete when you're not the one at the end of it all getting plenty of schtick? Louisa.

My roots never show. I'm a regular at Stars on ED road. Louisa.

I saw him and he made some very interesting points about how climate change is cyclical and what a load of bull the whole mainstream money grabbing pro-green energy mob talk. I really liked him. As I've always said, there is little or no evidence to prove or disprove the whole climate change argument. The sooner we all realise that, the better. Louisa.

Pat Butcher would be proud of those. I'd still rather do that than eat them, overrated food article that 'pizza' is. Louisa.

Not when they actively make a 'new' contribution in the business section and choose to once again mention my name when they know damn well I am in solitary confinement and cannot reply to them. It's out of order, and I wouldn't do it. It's forum etiquette. And anyway, seems a little suspicious they constantly say nice things about businesses, as well as talk about me and fox? Why no other contributions? More than coincidence I would argue. Louisa.

My friend tells me this notable piece of classical music was written and first composed by Mendelssohn in present day Camberwell and the "Spring Song" was originally called "Camberwell Green". He allegedly spent his time visiting England between London and the rolling countryside of Camberwell, where he got inspiration for this song? I can't find anything about it online at all, even though my friend claims there is a memorial sundial in Ruskin Park marking the spot where the house stood where he drew his inspiration. Anyone? Louisa.

Hahaha fox you are such a card! I could use those buggers as earrings! Louisa.

This person who foxy caught saying positive things about local businesses. Spending their entire 17 contributions either praising local business or looking down their nose at me and the fox. Well foxy meticulously went through their posting history and found a very interesting pattern. Have a read numbers, it's enlightening. Louisa.

Thanks uncleglen and Azalea. Some good suggestions there. I have a special festive marmalade I bought recently which contains cranberries thinking about it, that could work? Right I'll set up a new thread for it numbers as its unrelated to festive cuisine. Louisa.

Don't you just love it when a certain person has been caught red handed and tries the "not be guv" approach! Well done foxy. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?30,1609711,1609774#msg-1609774 Louisa.

I'm already merry haha. Oh that reminds me I have another unrelated question should I setup a different thread? I don't know if that's a bit indulging. Louisa.

Thanks for the recommendations. I found a recipe using Cadbury's fudge chocolate bars, broken up and placed inside shortcrust pastry casing then baked the normal way. Serving with creme fresh or clotted cream. Good shout on the cranberry Jeremy and also the chocolate orange tarts (in fact may use some Terry's chocolate orange in a few of the pastry cases). I won't be going down the savoury route by thanks foxy and sea bag for your suggestions. And quids if only we still had an Iceland within kicking distance! And anyway, it's Christmas I want to do something different. Louisa.

I have friends staying next week. i thought it would be nice to make some sort of festive speciality for them when they get here, and mince pies are fine (shortcrust of course), but does anyone have alternative fillings for similar small pies which would remain festive? I want some imagination to go into this, not just plain old apple or fruit pies. Thanks any help appreciated. Louisa.

Ahh memories! Finished in the late 70's I believe? It was this show and my uncle (RIP), who got me into becoming a regular at the Players Theatre underneath the arches on Villiers Street, Charing Cross. It ran for a good 30 years. Wotcha' all the neighbours cried! We'll knock 'em in the Old Kent Road! Louisa.

Which chef's foxy? Louisa.

For me it's when the tin of quality street is officially allowed to be cracked open. Usually Christmas Eve night, once all the carol services start. Louisa.

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "That's the sort of disgraceful behaviour I expect > of these alarmist, privileged mothers who spend > their afternoons taking care of their offspring in > fancy cafes around the area." > > And that's the sort of ridiculous over the top > rubbish we expect of you. > > A mum says to a child something that is perfectly > consistent with "don't bother that man", as > opposed to "beware of that dangerous man" and > suddenly we're off and running with yet another > infantile class-based diatribe against the > 'privileged'. > > And 'the Fox' is terrified to go into a cafe. > FFS. > > It's still a fact that more women than men spend > more time looking after young kids, so many places > have lost of mums and few if any dads. It's > really not hard (in my experience) to smile and be > polite and in 99% of cases everybody is fine. The > paranoia is in your head, DF. But let's face it, we all know the ignorant over the top attitude comes from a certain class of people, don't we? The Fox was simply minding his own business in the queue, and someone's child (clearly not under control) is shouted at from across the cafe by the parent in a way which is obviously degrading, and this person makes no effort to resolve their own insecurities by having a think about what they've done and apologising to someone else in the same cafe, you know, a customer, who should be able to visit a business without fear of being judged by other customers, particularly ones who can't control their own children. Louisa.

I see your point WorkingMummy as I do KK's, but it isn't the child who is at fault here. The parent was in a position to understand and put right the uncomfortable situation foxy had been inadvertently put in. She could have made light of it and apologised directly. Takes a few seconds. But as per, probably self centred and engrossed in her own situation to worry about how she indirectly effects someone else. Louisa.

That's the sort of disgraceful behaviour I expect of these alarmist, privileged mothers who spend their afternoons taking care of their offspring in fancy cafes around the area. Don't trust anyone, and whilst at it don't be discreet about it either. Let the world know exactly how narrow minded and distrustful you are of someone who you do not even know. I'm with you foxy, absolute disgrace. Louisa.

First proper electoral test for Corbyn's Labour tonight at Oldham West & Royton by-election. My hunch is that Michael Meacher's 14,000 majority will be swept aside, in this safest of safest Labour seats and UKIP will narrowly take this one. Like many 'Old Labour' voters, people like myself and those in Oldham, were hopeful that Corbyn's leadership victory would lead Labour off into a new direction, a return to some 'Old Labour' values, but to date the opposite has happened. The working classes remain neglected in favour of the middle class metropolitan elite (like the many people who whine endless do-goodery and wishy-washy crap on this forum). It appears the 'UKIP problem' will haunt Labour now for quite some time, and the patient (Labour) needs to change its medicine if it wishes to clear itself of this problem. UKIP has been in second place across the northern Labour heartlands now for a solid 5+ years, and no-one in the London centric party had addressed this as an issue (much like the SNP in Scotland). So whilst Labour no longer recognises class based problems inflicting its core vote, UKIP has successfully eroded into that disaffected electorate (a very large one at that). I warned the forum this would happen, a long time ago, but I was preaching to the guardianista elite of metro Labour, so it was never likely to hit home was it? Let's just hope there are enough green vegetarian lefties around to put Labour back into contention by 2020, or this wilderness milarchy will get pretty treacherous. I'd invest in some wellies if I were you. Louisa.

Well you see jacks09, my solution would be a seismic shift in power (further city, regional devolution so budgets are controlled outside of the capital), along with redistribution of business incentives to encourage investment in other regions with large urban conurbations. I also think we need infrastructure to be directed to these places so that we can encourage people to move away from the magnet of London, which of course would help to ease the housing crisis. Let's be clear, this is a nationwide housing crisis, this is a south east of England housing crisis. Louisa.

You know what I find even more sad? 30/40 years ago this country had a real sense of civic pride both North and South. Following the needless destruction of major industries, and a London centric attitude from government, once great cities such as Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield and I could go on were totally decimated in favour of London. Where are we now? Our chancellor talks of a northern powerhouse? Would this be the north that was neglect if for over a quarter of a century and now finds itself lagging seriously behind the South East? Ask any tourist when they are visiting the UK, will they visit any of these cities? No of course they won't, they all head straight for London. And London has now started eating itself. There is something wrong with a country where they can't given dilapidated Victorian terraces away in Liverpool and something similar in a relatively poor district of our capital is selling for over a million quid. And people wonder why I get so angry? It's no all about London, no other country in the world is so reliable upon one city (unless it's a city state of course). We have a population in excess of 60 million people, is it any wonder people away from the south east are so damn upset with the progress we make down here whilst whole regions elsewhere are lagging so far behind. Louisa.

Willard, Stephen and Daisy Malley exemplify for me the whole outcome of this process. Artisan coffee guzzling artistic socialist vegetarians who move to London's poorest neighbourhoods to try and fit in with the existing working class culture, but in turn end up destroying the neighbourhood by forcing existing businesses out and organic avocado shops in. It's nice to see that young Stephen has become aware of this fact, and now maybe his cleaner can have a live in role (maybe the garden shed is available?) rather than traipsing daily up on a slow train from Gravesend. Louisa.