Louisa

I feel your pain Bob. I sometimes have an identity crisis as for many years despite being born and raised in Peckham, feeling ashamed of the fact and telling people I lived in ED. nowadays, especially if you're young and hip, it's kind of cool to say you're living in Peckham. ED isn't cool, it just basically makes you as posh as someone from the village would have been about 20 years ago. And I bet even then, none of those posh buggers drank milk from drained vegetables! Bonkers! Louisa.

More patronising terms. 'Quiorna' vegetable milk. Get into the real world where the rest of us eat normal food, for the sake of sanity and common sense, please? I'm guessing you can only buy it in small hippy Indy establishments where posh people with beards charge a fortune and possibly even milk the plant in front of you so you can be sure it's 'fresh'. Louisa.

For me just normal cows milk. It's interesting having an insight in to middle class guardianistas and what they put in their beverage of choice, isn't it Seabag? Filtered water and rice milk? What the funk? Lmfao Louisa.

It's a problem, mapping an area. Post code and ward boundaries are limited. Usually people have an imaginary line in their head. For example, I see Adys Road as a definite ED/Peckham boundary. Although if I walk down Oglander (ED) or Gowlett (Peckham) neither aftually feels like one area or the other. I think from the high street of LL and Rye Lane notions of 'place' radiate outwards in a mental heat map, until you get to the boundary. Louisa.

Tea for me. Strong, dash of milk most of the day. Occasional coffee around eleven if it's milky and full of sugar. Louisa.

Tbh anywhere north of the river and I need a map. Londoner by birth, south Londoner by the grace of God. Louisa.

How comes most of the gardens area and bottom end of Peckham Rye (still SE22) are not included in those boundaries? Louisa.

Foxy I don't get why people would want to spend the best part of a tenner on a coffee and croissant just to obtain free wi-fi. Am I missing something here? Louisa.

Mince Pies has been done on here before. They don't patronise me per se, but they can make disproportionately angry for no reason. I think we've discussed the whole idea of puff pastry versus boxed etc. not sure we've pontificated on the whole 'finest' or 'very best' or whatever they choose to call them varitities though. I personally do not want to pay over the odds for something I can make at home. But then, if you look at a mince pie it's a seasonal treat which contains multiple facets to its creation (unlike a croissant which isn't half as filling or rich in texture and yet somehow manages to patronise the person eating it more, figure that one out?). Louisa.

I'd rather not be Seabag, I'd rather they were kept confined to small cafe's in Paris as a breakfast serving than littering the shelves of our nearest tesco/sainsbury local. Ah well, they're doing me no harm from a distance I suppose. Louisa.

Light pollution ruined our chances. I hear the moors of the West Country got the best views. Louisa.

Why people feel the need to resort to violence is beyond me, especially when it's aimed at a private individual who's just trying to create a business for themselves. I fear these people are using gentrification as a justification for mindless violence, however, it still doesn't detract from the wider argument that gentrification is causing a culture of 'them and us' to develop around the inner London boroughs. Abject poverty siting cheek by jowl with wealth, in traditionally working class neighbourhoods. Louisa.

Loz these people who claim to be 'anti-gentrifiers' and are a symptom of the bigger illness of gentrification itself. Louisa.

This is what gentrification can cause. Mindless violence, aimed at people who are just trying to set up a business. So next time people sneer at the effects of this phenomenon, have a look at what it's doing to neighbourhoods like Shoreditch and Peckham. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/27/shoreditch-cereal-cafe-targeted-by-anti-gentrification-protesters Louisa.

This forum has not been representative since about 2008. Louisa.

She sure has goosey ;-) Louisa.

I too had that fear rah, but once you step inside the glass warehouse, decidedly worthy of a envious gloat from the average shoreditch based hipster, you'll find yourself a pleasantly stocked traditional Iceland format store, selling all the old favourites from familiar surroundings. The staff aren't on a par with former LL store, but the selection is quite extraordinary. I could spend hours in there. Louisa.

5/10 Lynne. Not bad. Louisa.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did you know Butter Croissants are curved and > Margarine ones are straight > > Yup, you heard it here ! "Croissants that use any other type of fat (even if it's something like 95% butter and 5% margarine) cannot be straight (and will usually be in the iconic crescent shape). Here's the thing, though ? even though all straight croissants are made from butter, not all butter croissants are straight."- 12 Jan 2015 http://www.everywhereist.com/why-are-some-croissants-straight-and-others-curved/ Louisa.

I spoke too soon. Two tries later and the scots are well ahead again. Louisa.

Looks like the yanks are gonna wipe the floor with the jocks. Louisa.

Precisely Seabag. Are you playing catch up alice? I wonder if it's worth requesting from one of our local councillors some sort of once weekly rural style shuttle bus service to and from OKR store for locals without wheels missing their Iceland fix? James Barber? Louisa.

I'm with you there Jez. I'd invest in one too if it allowed me to be moved away from the various scumbags you find hogging A&E with their drink/drug/violence related problems, draining the system. But I agree with quids it's the diversity training which is at fault here, a total lack of common sense. When I was younger people would actively stop a car or bus etc to give a person in the armed forces thumbing a lift. The level of respect was immense, and now it appears that has flipped on its head. Louisa.

I can understand the sentiment from the member of staff, and am sure it was done in good faith, following alleged previous "incidents" involving other members of the public and people in uniform. However, such a suggestion shouldn't and wouldn't have to be made if we lived in a country where we actually had universal respect and admiration for the people who defend our rights and freedoms. It's part of a wider disgraceful PC culture which should not be allowed to overcome common sense and decency. Louisa.

Happy 8th birthday rah. I had no idea you had been part of the furniture for so long. Louisa.