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Mike, truely incredible i know.

Holy shish kebabs, just found out the sales particulars for the Tulip, it will indeed be another Tandoori takeaway run by locals, not sure about Jaflong though Rolo, where did you get that from?

Nice one Mark. Well, the Tulip is also applying for a late night alcohol licence so I guess things may have changed....

It's defo not going to be where the Tulip was i can safely say......Right Kat?;-)

But there's a chicken shop next door so wouldn't make sense, a kebab shop would be a good idea.

Ultra, try the dulwich cafe' by the palmerston, that place is alot busier than the others and the portions are great. The Tulip is good though, i tried to swing a deal for them a couple of years ago but it didnt quite work out so i suspect it will stay a working mans cafe' or it will evolve into something ED like.:) Lets see on Monday.

Hi andrew, did Hussein the chef/owner say who is taking over ?

Snorkdude, calm it down buddy, this is a genuine cause and the people are who they say they are and they are not connected to phill props. The neighbours should understand that if the extention gets built then there will be no noise from garden drinking as the extension will be part of the main bar/building and noise will not be heard. Am i right BC?

The guy that Karl describes was asking people in Filmnight for money last night at about 7pm, the staff did nothing . As i was walking out he he came up to me put his hand on my shoulder and asked for some change to buy food, I told him i had no change which was true, he had a vacant look in his face and slight redness in his eyes and yes i felt sorry for him too. Five minutes later i walked out of Threshers and guess what, he passed at the same time and he asked me the same question. He didnt seem threatning and as i felt sorry for him, i gave him 24p, he said "god bless you sir" and then moved on and asked the people at the bustop across the road. Some of us may have pity for this guy but the local fuzz or wardens don't seem to be doing anything about this guy begging just yet.

Going back to the survey, how can there be a practical solution in penalising estate sgents cars from parking especially the ones that are not all graffited up as they are now. I can't see one, can anyone else?

Thanks Mark for organising the survey (didnt get a reply from you after my email request for it) and Hugue for setting it up. Nice surprise. Hopefully the councillors will incorporate the results into their survey that has hit a *part* of ED only.

I remember when houses on Danby street were at ?65k, I was offered a few back then, went on and bought commercial on Bellenden, it's a great little area but still not as busy and vibrant as it should be as councillors reckoned when it went under regeneration but there's no rush i guess. Does anyone know what's going on in the shop next to apex stationers? It belongs to a guy that lives abroad and the council were going to compulsory purchase it when it went under regen, but he then started doing bits and pieces to it to avoid the compulsory purchase. I have noticed some work going on in there.

Hey Alan, what's the price in 1997 before the Bellenden regeneration.?;-)

Yep, apparently italian. Il Giardino on Blenheim Grove next to Peckham Rye station does fantastic food.

get a private eye to help you find it.:)

Its been 2-3 weeks since the parking survey hit ED and the councillors say they are still delivering, has anyone else here received a survey recently????

yes, i think all of the houses on Ashbourne should be knocked down and the whole street turned into a car park. ( kidding of course )

Hugue, are you saying that LL is a destination shopping mecca for the people of Croydon, Clapham and Dartford then I think not, its all about local people using local shops and yes people from further afield use the shops too especially if they are shops that sell unique things. (Sean, Sainsbos were encouraged to buy all of those units and cash in on selling flats above, the ONLY big player in FH i believe) Redroutes and bus lanes in FH certainly changed that area and many shops closed down and I knew some of those people. People use their cars for shopping, not everybody can go by bus ie if they have kids, are disabled or have lots and lots of shopping they use cars, thats why having a facility for parking or a carpark as Peckham has is always needed for these shopping areas. Think about it boys.

It still does but you can never know.

Sean, How much do you wanna bet that this thread continues?:))

Green cuisine pays a HEFTY rent to you know who. I hope that shops survives though, local people should support it IMO.

Macroban, is there anything that you don't know? Find out who has taken that unit. ::o

The bus lanes and red routes Sean me ol mate.

Evening Hugue, Now lets see, Look what happened to Forest Hill, a certain degree of cpz and red routes with bus lanes hit that area and what happened? Yes it died off quickly and Sainsburys cashed in. Cpz around Wandsworth, look what happened to Northcote Road, full of white stuff, caffe nero, gourmet burger, fat face basically everything thats coming to ED as the little shopkeepers cant survive ( although there are small businesses still on that road ). To some landlords it would seem wise to follow the phillpark properties method and get the big chains in but I believe ED should remain unique ( even though it has a million *independant* gift shops):-S Some years ago Southwark council commissioned a formal survey for ED asking if people wanted cpz, the people said NO. Now the local lib dem councillors are conducting their own survey to see what people want before applying for the full formal survey once again if the people say yes in this first round. After the cpz survey TFL applied for bus lanes going northbound and southbound on LL from 7 am to 7pm 6 days a week for some bizarre reason ( Do you think that would not damage local trade Hugie and whoever thought that one up should be ....) Guess what? Two groups started petitions, then found each other and it amalgamated into one. The traders and residents gathered thousands of signatures opposing the bus lanes ( copies still available somewhere i believe) and southwark heard this and what do we have today, a practical solution, one bus lane going north bound into town from 7am til 10 am and parking restrictions both sides for half an hour only which works. This is not speculation but hard FACTS as to what's happening and what makes ED so unique, green and suburban Hugie matey. We do not have the tube station phenonema here where parking would be a nightmare if we did have the tube station so I believe, in this open debate on the subject, cpz should not be an option. Thank you for listening and good night.:)

Or perhaps Macroban is just suffering from paranoia?!? (edit,speilling mistake)