RosieH

didn't think the original post was asking for help so much as letting off steam..? seems what galled about the chav thing was the implication that somehow by being a chav, the potty mouth was more likely to attack than a nice jumper-wearing White Stuffer..? is it not a simple case of something needing to be said(though perhaps not "chav"? or am I naive because I'm a woman and less likely to be assaulted under such circumstances?

quite right. I'm a bit riled. brilliant - haven't been angry about something I've read on here in a long time. but seriously, we're privileged to live in a nice area and this gives us licence to look down on people who don't share the privilege why? at this rate the piles of The Guardian in Budgens will soon be dwarfed by those of the Torygraph ????, glad you're on my side. (how do we pronounce that by the way?)

ah, ok, then I apologise. clearly my guardian-reading heckles rising. off to JoJoMamanBebe with me

Jimbo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not sure how much he earns and to be honest it > shouldn?t really matter. No indeed, it shouldn't matter at all - but it was your referring to him as a "chav" that prompted me to ask. Casually judgmental, no?

Jimbo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Has anyone else experienced or witnessed the foul > mouth and temper of the chav that gets on the > 0703hrs train at East Dulwich? are we judging him on the fact that he has a foul mouth, or that he's a bit poor and common and not really suitable company for the likes of us?

am I right in thinking you can't actually take books out of the British Library? clearly need to make a visit

so I was talking to someone today about book crossing and she said she'd picked up quite a few books here and there over the past year or so (granted she's in Oxford - suspect they read more). I've never seen a book left on a bench or a bus for people to pick up and enjoy and pass on - although I'd be quite keen. Obviously there was (is?) the book swap group for a more formal offering, but if you saw a book just lying on a bench would you think to read it and then leave it somewhere else? maybe I'm just cynical...

no such thing as a new idea

In a similar vein - Skweeze Me Please Me by Slade actually I really quite like See My Baby Jive

is this a chance to show off cool musical taste? in which case: I know him so well - Elaine Paige and Barbara Dickson

shame, we could have done one of those "bring an ex" parties... although if Chav's are mainly dessicated empty husks, possibly not such an attractive prospect

LizzygotDizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well actually when women put on mascara, well some > women, their faces contort incredibly and they > open their mouths so that you can actually see > their teeth, remnants of breakie etc. which I find > gross, I said I'd like to jog accidentally on > purpose, didn't say powerdrive or slamdunk them > them into their seats haha, fair point. and apologies, I did stray into the realm of hyperbole there - although I like the image of someone taking out their juicy tube only for you to sock it to them. can't stand hairbrushing on public transport myself, especially with the head tossing

ah, went to the cinema just before christmas and the seats had gone back down to ?2.99, but that could have been a temporary thing of course it would be lovely to have all these things right on our doorstep. I'd love Vivienne Westwood or the Sanctuary or the Old Vic, but I don't think the area's missing anything without them - I don't expect to have those things in an, albeit villagey, suburb, I expect to go into town for them. And I quite like making the trip to other parts of town. They always have new and exciting gift shops to discover...

brilliant - then I'd never again have to spot an ED cutie, think he looks hot only to see the trail of tricycles and buggies and yummy mummy in his wake, and return dejectedly to my garret with my copy of the Guardian and a Birds Eye roast dinner for one.

chicken is the meat of the masses. ever since we worked out how to fit a few hundred thousand of the buggers in a shed. is dirt cheap is why. and we've forgotten how to make recipes with cheap meat - casserole dishes should be government issue with income support

LizzygotDizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ... seriously aggravating and not > something you want to be privy to first thing in > the morning on the way to work ... > I feel like jogging the make-up appliers so > their mascara lands halfway up their faces! interesting - what's so annoying about people putting their make up on? I get that shaving, filing your nails, flossing (!) where you leave bits of yourself behind is fairly gross, but why is make up so bothersome that it makes you wish violence upon the appliers?

a-men to that sister

a tin of plum tomatoes, an onion and a couple of bulbls of garlic is a hell of a lot cheaper than a jar of Ragu (and doesn't contain any random nasties) - eating better quality food can be less costly if you're prepared to make it yourself

there's something about all of this that troubles me slightly (hmm, troubles probably too strong a word) But people wanting clothes shops / cinemas / guitar shops and whatnot - all very lovely and great to have - but what's wrong with actually venturing out of East Dulwich into the wider world once in a while? we are, after all, part of a rather lovely metropolis that has all of these things in spades. are we at risk of becoming rather insular?

Quite right Sean. A lot of the problem lies in our expectation to have meat at every meal (hastily pointing out when I say "we" I mean the British populace, not "we" the enlightened folks on EDF). If that is the case, then free range is out of the price range of many, even cutting down on the fags and the scratch cards. I don't want to sound like some old reactionary Daily Mail reader, but decent education about food in school might help - people might be able to create a menu that doesn't rely on a 20-pack of slimy chicken breasts and a jar of Chicken Tonight. With a bit more education and consequently variety, there should be significantly less need for battery-produced meat.

the cinema in Peckham is great and only ?2.99 a seat - not so very far to go

lol - I'll set to work is "indoor garden" a euphemism?

I'm contemplating a merkin shop. I could do pink / floral if that's what the kids want

genius

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > By all the gods! How did a good rant about the > malicious evil that reigns supreme in government > turn into a housewives?, horn fest over a chubby, > beige Scotsman? Malicious evil???? come now. apart from being delicious (seriously, I couldnae speak in his presence) the brains, integrity and moral fibre have surely got to count for something? (the oleaginous Blair would just slide right off)