I am just thinking, and I do not mean to be provocative in any way - honest I don't, but is there any point in anyone who is not Gay making a comment on this thread? I mean, how can we have an opinion if we are not gay? Surely, whether it would be good for ED to have a gay bar is a question that can only be answered by someone with a vested interest. I don't think I am coming across very well but I hope someone gets me gist.