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I see that today the govt are pivoting from ?eu has a shortage of truck drivers too!!? To ?But yeah we need some of their drivers so will allow them to come here. For a bit. Just for a bit mind. Don?t get comfortable? Remains to be seen if they will accept such a graceful invitation

Well shoot. Why didn?t anyone tell me it was going to be this much fun!

well, this isn't good https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/23/bp-rations-petrol-and-diesel-deliveries-to-its-service-stations

I think I have been part of the conversation. Back on previous page. But yeah I have kind of left people too it as they seem happy to ignore the elephant in the room and operate on a parochial level. But you can?t big yourself up like you did and not expect some blowback, surely?

BBC and co spend a lot of time interviewing and quoting Patrick Minford too. He also thinks he knows a lot. It just happens to be the opposite of what majority of his peers think

I'm in agreement that Brexit has little to nothing to do with the cause it will have a lot to do with how we recover My point was more about the fact that there was a time when the government was looking ahead and planning - and decided to ignore any warning signs

Let's have a look at how the government planned for this shall we? Back when Brexit had yet to happen, but was being factored into decisions (ha - remember those heady days!) Anyway - interesting thread here:

at some point, the voters are going to have to hold this government responsible for all the bad decisions they make

and we can call it a pint again after 40 years of the EU forcing us to call it 586ml

This country is weird

?Students of my posts? Mother of god

Same old same old Eu will fall apart rhetoric. Barnier has always been a right wing politician with his immigration line He was a negotiator on behalf of 27 Eu countries in Brexit. Why can?t you see the difference? There is no Damascene conversion There is no frexit (even le penn backed away from that notion) There is no Eu falling apart You are an anti-immigrant one note pony and that?s it. That?s all you got

? No more EU smoke and mirrors? Anyone know what this even means? More bizarre than his usual comments.

It?s not hard for me to accept Because there aren?t any meaningful positives. Otherwise you would point to them instead of desperately spending weeks clinging to non-wins like vaccine rollout And you only have ropy characters on here in your corner And linking to an article where barnier is critical of EU doesn?t change that in any way whatsoever Try harder

I left the house today I found a Quid!!! Benefit of leaving the house versus staying home innit! A dog bit me, I fell in the river and lost a tenner. Nothing to do with me leaving the house ?Jesus why focus on the negative - you people! ?

Some scientists say climate change is real Some say it isn?t Hard to weight up the net reality isn?t it? 13 pages of people pointing out genuine, real, often life-altering problems of Brexit Catty saying ?there are positives too!!! ? and gives examples of things that don?t need Brexit and turned out to be not especially great anyway (waves at vaccine rollout) So yeah. Totally even stevens. It?s a close run thing etc.

Just because you say something is desperate doesn?t make it so Smugly, provocatively grinning ?it?s not as bad as you thought? as people lose their jobs, inflation rises, supplies dry up, companies go under, Northern Ireland peace continues to look risky, exports tank and friends and neighbours get caught in a web of home office rules and punishment is not a good look If you genuinely believe it?s not going badly then you just aren?t a serious person

The gall of people who for years told workers and people like me arguing for higher wages that we would break the economy now claiming it?s a good effect of Brexit The bare faced cheek of it Nothing was stopping a higher minimum wage or companies paying more - and certainly not being an Eu member

2016 wiped so many people's memories

"It makes them feel cosy and community spirited. " imagine such horrors! far better to bitch and moan at anybody who dares to move to London - that's REAL community spirit

I think we have had enough flag waving of any sort

Some well dodgy camera angle decisions during play as well But frankly what a fantastic spectacle, match and result Watch it with my 10 year old and she could barely watch Two amazing young people with composure beyond their years. A privilege to behold

If you think Johnson deserves credit for making decisions that please no one, the next couple of years are going to be wild (although I suspect this announcement will be popular with people. In short term anyway. So. True to form) On the decision itself I?m currently agnostic - but the rush to push it thru in a hurry tomorrow suggests it hides a multitude of issues he wants out of the way before anyone realises. Very much his MO and always leads to problems Not sure what cabinet or mps are even for these days given his disregard for scrutiny

5 years in and still the uk can?t get it?s shit together So the eu has its borders and checks ready - and uk doesn?t. I wonder who will benefit financially from this arrangement hmmmmm Eu countries don?t face checks IN to uk But UK faces checks and barriers and costs exporting For how long? ?Indefinitely? you say So much control That?ll go well https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/06/uk-and-eu-extend-post-brexit-grace-period-over-northern-ireland-protocol?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I see arch Brexiteer Simon Jenkins is today saying "Brexit need never have so devastated the British economy. The damage has come from one decision, to depart the single market. The sensible path now would be for Johnson to eat humble pie and seek, as far and as fast as possible, readmission to that market. Britain would imitate the protocol it has agreed for Northern Ireland. This would not mean rejoining the EU, just rejoining Ireland ? the most delicious of historical ironies."