Yep T-E-D, carpet I am familiar with, your logic not so much, still don't get your point: the-e-dealer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I replied 1 12ft by 12ft. They rang me. Our vans > wont take objects taller than 10ft. > > I took a deep breath and said ITS ROLLED UP. "oh" > said the relieved waste man then I think we can > take it. Where does, "it's rolled up its 12 inches tall nothing to do with maths" make that statement make sense?