Spartacus

No idea Sue, but it was a good solution for those who only had coal fires for heating after the cream air act was introduced. I grew up with a coal fire, nothing beats it for warmth but sadly thats a past distant memory now.

Potentially, a ceasefire has been agreed, which pushes the doomsday clock hands back a tad if its true BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to 'complete and total' ceasefire' - live updates - BBC News

Thank the stars for smokeless coal when it was introduced

What a pity as, if managed correctly, it would have been a good thing. Sounds potentially like too little publicicity and not enough advance discussions and invitations to traders. But thats only my observation.

I have to question who realy is in charge The leader of the so called free world or some bloke in the Middle East pulling his strings? Still who knows, finally Hans Blix's Weapons of Mass Distraction, sorry Destruction, could be found 😅

A debate in both house and the public right to opt out would be a good solution

@malumbu forget burning stubble i'll have a pipeful of what ever you are smoking at the moment 😷

Still, I suppose another advantage is everyone's DNA will be on file so the police can solve more crimes 🤔

Thanks James, sorry I mean Ex 😅

Is North Cross Road the High Street now ? 😅 Shame that this wasn't publicised wider and earlier IMHO

BBC News - NHS plans to DNA test all babies to assess disease risk https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ljg7v0vmpo I'm in two minds about this , on one hand it may help eliminate life changing illnesses as a child grows up, providing the gene therapy is available and free to all. On the other hand, the unexpected consequences could be that the data is sold / shared or lost and if insurance companies get it they could increase premiums or refuse cover due to the higher risk. Equally if an employer gets it, could they discriminate based on likelihood of needing more time off? If the data is anonymous and secure, possibly not a problem but even the NHS was hacked recently. Years ago I watched Gattaca , where a similar system resulted in upper class "perfect" citizens and the underclass of the "Imperfect" and whilst it was fiction, this could be how it starts 🤔 https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/

Mal, the reference to Sahara Sand was simply to point out how something happening in one place, impacts us here There was no implication it was in anyway toxic 😅

Air polution in London isn't just one size fits all issue. Recently the ULEZ reduced tailpipe emissions by a massive amount, the older Clean Air Act (1952?) Removed coal and industrial smog from London and aircraft emissions are better than ever. Yet winds still blow pollution in from outside Lomdon and the UK (I always hate it when the Sahara sand storms hit to emphasise how external factors impact us) so its a global issue that needs global changes, including responsible sourcing (because its cheaper in another country we have to be aware of their policy on pollution and the global cost of transport) along with less consumerism, none of us needs the latest tech , strawberries in December or wear once clothes) Sadly what Ted was alluding to is that whilst we have a role to play, its got to be a global effort and we shouldn't allow other countries to expand their pollution to fill the void we leave when cutting ours and that may mean its less likely you have everything you want when you want it.

I agree Mal, Its not our fight

Ahh I was simply bringing something relevant in response to your "We hold our elected representatives accountable via the ballot box." To point out other ways of holding them accountable 😀

Blimey You did take a huge leap there. Careful when you land... This thread is about the LTN she mislead the high court over. I didn't imply it had any relevance to the square of shame or Southwark, but if the cap fits... However, I did imply that if councillors act in a misleading way, then we should expect them to be removed rather than wait for a local election.

According to this article in today's Times, Rezina Chowdhury is being urged to resign over misleading the high court https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/lambeth-rezina-chowdhury-resign-ltn-6s9mn5jpx It's behind a firewall but a website archive can get past that 😀 Maybe thats what should occur to councillors who are found to have manipulated information and responses rather than wait for a local election. After all if you manipulate the truth at work and get found out then you are normally disciplined or sacked so the same principle should apply to all walks of life

@Rockets, I have for some time suspected @malumbu is in fact Donald Trump due to the incoherent rants and statements made on here I could, of course be wrong, but evidence and the obsession with cats in the street is to strong to ignore 😅

Google maps doesn't account for current traffic, local conditions and other impacts on driving Earl.

Let's hope the council sees the same level of common sense and properly engages with the community 😅

Sorry Mal Let me explain it slowly to you. If you posted a comment similarly in the Brexit thread, saying "remainers get over it, its been 9 years" I am sure they would rip your head off, so why disrespect people on here by posting "its been 5 years, get over it" ? If you can't see the comparison then I'm sure specsavers can help

Cats ???? Cats go everywhere

Love to see you post something simular in a brexit debate thread. You would be cut to ribbons with defeatist talk like that, and as such its disrespectful to those who still feel aggrieved by the underhand way the council dismissed residents views when discussing LTNs

I love the spin "A consultation isn't a referendum" which is often cited but I think it comes with a sub text of "unless its in favour of what I want"

Thanks Sue Thats now painted a picture of Mal fine dining in McDonalds using an app to order a big mac and fries