Tommy1000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think any debate as to the merits of people's > own anecdotes is a distraction. > That is exactly what a cyclist is doing when they > decide that certain laws don't apply to them. They > presumably think it's fine for them to ride on the > pavement, and this could be because they don't > care or it could be because they think that they > can do it safely. The point is that it's not their > decision to take, beyond their own personal bubble > a decision has been taken that, for the greater > benefit of all, (adult) cyclists aren't allowed to > ride on pavements. Sorry to repeat the 'parallel example not being better than the original' fallacy, but does your comment apply to motorbikes and cars that encroach the Advanced Stop Line? That's something that if I notice a car driver NOT doing is something to remember...