Good grief! Is that what it is Polly. If only I'd known. And what's more I'd like to know what a PITA is too, seeing as I read the Indy as well, well the Sindy actually, but then I read the Daily Mirror and the Metro too, that way I get a good cross section of the news. By the way I think you'll find most of the clientele who used to drink in the ED boozers in the old days you'll probably find most of them up at the Plough or the Castle and probably the British Legion club in Barry Road, none of which appeals to me and I've lived in Dulwich most of my life.