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Well done. everyone. And tomorrow we'll be doing supine.

Anyone here been banned from the Dulwich website? is on the Sydenham Town forum.

It's registered to an address in Hindmans Road.

Tiver

A learning theoretician asks: Can you initially, at times when she's there and likely to want to go out, remove the flap, or fix it in an open position?

> If you want to change my world view you're going to have to do it in no more than 15mins or 1000 words. Words are available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist:_Moving_Forward and links and branches therefrom. Happy reading.

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> And no, there is no ganging up on the new guy. Howseover, he seems now to be a "This user doesn't exist or has been deactivated" guy.

9.30 today I saw a flock of maybe 30-40 black coloured birds just north of the hospital flying approximately south in close formation at ?over 100 feet. They seemed initially to be on a fixed course, but then did some veering with bits of swift-like jinking, climbing and soaring, but still keeping formation. After I'd turned round to find some bins they'd disappeared from sight in the way that swifts do. I'd been wondering if that was a sign of their departure, as I don't think I've ever seen swifts in close formation before. But I have now found mention of their doing this at the start of feeeding runs. I hope it was that. [14/8/11 Comment from Peggy Woolley, Ambridge, Borsetshire: "Swifts are usually gone by this time of year."]

This page provides a list, under the subheading "Your tenancy conditions: antisocial behaviour" of the activities that are said to be prohibited to Wandsworth tenants. It doesn't seem to me, however, to be a copy of the terms of the actual tenancy agreements, given that the first of the listed prohibitions is itself "Breach the tenancy conditions." Nor do I know how authoritative or accurate it might be as a summary of the law on repossessions as provided for by the Housing Acts 1996 and 1985, if that's the source or motivation. First person to find a good commentary on the Wandsworth stratagem by a housing law expert, please point and shout, in an unriotous manner. Wandsworth's release about the eviction action is here.

> "Canetti speaks about death and survival:..." There's an easier to read (though still symptomatically unparagraphed) version here.

DJKQ> Will be interested to see what grounds they use for pursuing that, and if there is already a prior DJKQ history of ASB. Can't see it succeeding if there are no previous ASB orders in place though. This intended repossession is in Wandsworth, following the appearance in court of the son re an alleged offence in the Clapham Junction area. The leader of Wandsworth Council was interviewed about it on R4 PM. He said, more than once, that the action was pursuable as a matter of a breach of the tenancy contract. He also, I think, claimed that the family would be deemed voluntarily homeless on account of a repossession action brought because of the action of the son, the mother being responsible for the son's actions. On listening to him I wasn't convinced that he was necessarily on top of his material, though I'm not in a position to criticise anything he said.

> The actions of the rioters constitute a nuisance in the local area and those who have looted shops and returned goods to their > homes have allowed their homes to be used for immoral purposes. How much of that is clearly established in law, and how much is wishful interpretation? I can, although ignorant of the area, at least envisage the possibility of problems with both 'local area' and 'immoral purposes'.

>Can we get back to posting about strange looking men following timid women down the road at night pulling a suitcase A contortionist can hide in a suitcase. http://boingboing.net/2011/06/08/contortionist-thief.html Be careful out there.

Perhaps overheating? Try searching for diagnostics and some possible remedies.

Manda> And if the SNT are predicting issues then they must have some cause for concern, past experience. James Barber's words were "The ED SNT ward panel is concerned that local Police will be distracted." To which my internal response was: Who are this ward panel, where can I find out about them, their appointment, remit and deliberations?

Magpie, who are the posters that you think of as 'lefty'?

I'm taking the liberty of posting copies of a letter in the file from the woman, the sole item from her directly, and an MOD note. I'll leave them up for a few days. It may at least save the NA server some work. The other stuff is just a letter to her from the MOD and internal emails confirming no military activity in the area. I'm thinking it possible that there may have been an element of some police officers 'having a larf'.

> No one in their right mind can honestly say that they are alright with the prospect of some of Southwarks biggest criminals travelling > down to ED on a daily basis What are they going to do here?

It's contained within several hundred MB of files downloadable free from the National Archives for the next month. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/609.htm The following is from the 397kB Highlights Guide to the set. The file of DEFE 24/2035/1, which will contain images of the report, among many others, is 28.7MB. Mork and Mindy visit East Dulwich. DEFE 24/2035/1, p217-18, contains an account of ?some lights, formed in a worm shape, wriggling around in the sky? that were seen in the sky by a woman and her daughter from East Dulwich, London, in the early hours of 10 January 2003. The pair became concerned about ?a possible terrorist attack? and phoned police who sent officers to the address. The following day the older woman called MoD and told the UFO desk officer the two PCs were joined by two men in ?space suits, with dark glasses who called themselves Mork and Mindy?these men told her not to look at the object because of possible radiation and they carried a transmitter which kept clicking.? They asked her not to talk to anyone in case of panic and offered to wash their eyes with a solution. Police told MoD they sent two ordinary PCs to the address but ?they could not see anything in the sky and concluded it was possibly a reflection of a star and a street light in her window.? In a letter dated 21 January 2003 the woman says ?your men have fed us with a lot of rubbish, presumably to make us look foolish and our story unbelievable, which they have succeeded in doing.?

northlondoner> Ian R - hmmm can't make up my mind if I'm pissed off at apparently gratuitous mention of ethnicity. I was worrying and teetering either way myself, both before and after posting. But it wasn't intended gratuitously. The thing that was in my mind, and that I wanted to be available to readers, was that there's probably going to be one less male role model for kids, when they're already very short in at least primary schools, and, even more a pity, one less male black professional role model, in a school which, I'm assuming, has many black students. Perhaps I should have been more wordily explicit at the time. But perhaps they will let him stay on, if he and they want and he's available. I'd assumed that his current conviction would more or less automatically rule out his continued employment there, but I don't know now how true that is.

I've just been looking through all the IPCC's press releases on Mark Duggan's shooting. http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/Pages/default.aspx I've seen no mention there that Mr Duggan had fired a shot, that the non-police gun had been fired, or that any shots had been fired at the police. I have seen mention of the appointment of a Family Liaison Manager on Friday, the day after his death, and several references to contacts with and support for members of Mr Duggan's family, the provison of contact details, and of contacts with community leaders. There are several acknowledgements of the distress felt by Mr Duggan's family and of community concern. There are also requests for the ending of inflammatory and inaccurate speculations about his death. That of an 'execution' style assassination by shots to the head was on 7 August categorically stated to be untrue. The Monday 8 August release includes: "Following my meeting with the family yesterday (Sunday) I am very clear that their concerns were not about lack of contact or support from the IPCC. Their concerns were about lack of contact from the police in delivering news of his death to Mark?s parents. It is never the responsibility of the IPCC to deliver a message regarding someone's death and I have told Mr Duggan?s family that I would be addressing this issue with the Met and that, if necessary, this would become part of our investigation."

YOUR VIEWS ON FOIE GRAS --- Fourth Glorious Week at the EDF! "This one will run and run."

> BBC reporter at Highbury Magistrates Court, John Brain, tells BBC 5 live: "the first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a > 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. She pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon" - A black male learning mentor at a Stockwell school , according to the Guardian and other papers. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/10/england-riots-primary-croydon-burglary A pity. He's apparently the only male out of a dozen or more learning mentors and teaching assistants at the school. http://www.stockwell-pri.lambeth.sch.uk/whoswho.asp [Flash needed!]

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not making excuses for anyone - a plague on every participant in the riots - but riots like this weeks don't happen all the time for a bunch > of reasons. And one of those reasons is that a small band of commited people recognise that many kids are broken (for whatever reason) > and try and grub around for funding to keep them busy. If it stops rioting, it's cheap at twice the price, even if it appears to be "soft" I believe there are, or have been, such people in Peckham, with very small organisations, low public profile, probably little money, doing largely unheralded work. These are other than Camilla Batmanghelidjh's Kids Company. I don't remember any details. Does anyone?