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> Sainsburys at Bell Green is reducing its > opening hours from 8am to 8pm from tomorrow > - not sure if DKH is going to do the same. It's general. There's a lot copied from Sainsburys on page 11 of this thread. /forum/read.php?20,2101607,2105381#msg-2105381

nxjen wrote ----------- > There were certainly restrictions about > who could go into the store itself when > I was there at 7.30 At 7.15 there was a queue that afaics extended along half the store front, and the car park seemed close to full. I just walked back home. Was the queue short-lived? Was the store fairly full then?

> It's only a lost caterpiller..somehow > got into a giant cardboard box. I blame the parents.

I think I heard mention on Today this morning of people paying ?275 for test kits supplied privately by some outfit in Harley Street.

bcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Looks like the kind of trap this nasty piece of > work - Mahoody - is selling. You should send him > your vet bill. > > /forum/read.php?30,2096886,2097838#msg-2097838 It does not, and there are no grounds for asserting that it might have been sold or set by him. If you look at his trapbarn.com website, mentioned in the thread you link to and have also contributed to, it's clear to see that the Fenn traps are made in Redditch. It's also clear to see that the Kness trap was made in the USA, and looks different from the Fenn one. It's also a clear matter of law that the Spring Traps Approval (England) Order 2018, SI 2018/1190 gives the Fenn traps explicit government approval. That approval has, for all varieties of the trap, the clear condition:The trap must be set in a natural or artificial tunnel which is, in either case, suitable for the purpose. So, any responsibility for the hurt done to the cat lies clearly with the user rather than the unknown supplier. The trapbarn.com website itself makes it clear at a number of places that it's a legal requirement to have such a tunnel, and supplies artificial ones. Do you have any evidence that, as you clearly imply, Mahoody has some responsibility for the hurt suffered by the cat? How do you justify "this nasty piece of work"?

dbboy, are you including in your calculation the number of people who are infected but have not come to any attention, or those who, recorded case or not, are currently infected but will die later? I think the worldometer site has a useful primer on the difficulties of specifying a mortality rate.

A thought that struck me a few days ago after getting a noseful of cigarette smoke walking along LL -- exhaled smoke of any sort would presumably be an excellent vector for viruses, hanging about in the air as it does for several seconds.

Dr Phil Hammond's 'MD' article in the 6-19 March edition of Private Eye is still online at https://www.private-eye.co.uk/columnists (but liable to be replaced by tomorrow) and I think worth a look. I was reminded of it by one of Malumbu's post earlier.

The Commons Health and Social Care Select Committee has a session of inquiry into "Preparations for Coronavirus" this afternoon that may be of interest. Starts at 13:45 according to https://committees.parliament.uk/, though the https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/cced67ec-c445-4698-a21b-7d9ff8a01354 channel, at which it can be caught live or in recording, says 14:00, which I think is more likely. A written transcript usually turns up shortly thereafter. I suspect I'll find it a lot more interesting and less stressing than this, fairly typical, forum thread. I'm continuing to update, at the top of page 6, the daily counts of confirmed cases in Southwark, as issued at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274. It's now at 33. I wonder if some of the variability in the apparent rate of increase (latest counts: 11, 13, 28, 33) could be due as much to the way cases reach official awareness as to the real-world incidence, which is likely to be higher, perhaps much higher. I trust that there are various stratagems in operation, such as GP surgery reports or random population sampling, to get ongoing true estimates of the numbers actually infected. Can anyone recommend any other public fora, newsgroups, mailing lists, blogs,etc where there's any fairly expert discussion of the issues and science? I'm feeling nostalgia for the days of Usenet, etc. Despite being over 70, the idea of getting infected early and over with, and becoming a free and potentially useful agent again, is a tempting one.

For electricity: ? 0) Check with a neighbour to confirm that it's general 1) Find from google the electricity network provider for London 2) Check https://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/power-cut [ETA] or their list https://ukpn.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/power-cut-list/ I can't see any current power cut on their map for the area. Or any mention at all on the list. Was it a brief cut?

It looks to me like one of these: http://www.kness.com/store/pc/Big-Snap-E-Rat-Trap-2p5.htm.

Presumably it wasn't the last two cans? :)

> from what has transpired it now appears > that Boris is willing to allow between > 300,000 - 500,000 citizens to die, > before their natural time What is it that has transpired that you're referring to?

> It should put the community (which > includes many vulnerable people > as well as those who work at or > are visiting friends & relatives > in Kings College Hospital down > the road) first in this situation. I hope and trust that those groups will by now already be very wary of unduly increasing their risk of exposure.

> Italy death rate, death vs recovered is over 40%. I'm sorry, this isn't clear to me. What are the source figures you're using?

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TE44 Wrote:at /forum/read.php?20,2096178#msg-2101480 ------------------------------------------------------- > Blah Blah I am aware there is planning around > viruses an different scenarios. I d nt trust the > Who nor the CDC, The institutional organisatios > involved with our health need to be more > transparent and more answerable for there action. > The one thing I feel we can be absolutely sure of, > from these organisations and others connected with > them is we will not be told the truth, maybe > little snippets thrown in. Some snippets here: https://www.who.int/influenza/vaccines/virus/en/.

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> how many people in Southwark have it? 11 confirmed to date. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 [ETA The BBC site will have got the data each day from https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/. See the About The Data link at the top of that page for an account of its composition. These are cases confirmed by a precise lab test, which amounts to two sets of people: patients admitted to hospital plus medical workers.] 13 twenty four hours later. 28 when Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 15 March 33 when Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 16 March 58 when Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 17 March 70 Update of 18 March 82 Figures last updated 17:00 GMT, 19 March 110 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 20 March 134 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 21 March 139 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 22 March 154 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 23 March 181 Figures last updated 24 March 209 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 25 March 253 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 26 March 290 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 27 March 319 Figures last updated 28 March 365 Figures last updated 09:00 BST, 29 March 368 Figures last updated 30 March 415 Figures last updated 31 March 474 Figures last updated 1 April 516 Figures last updated 16:00 GMT, 02 April 566 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 03 April 586 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 04 April 648 Figures last updated 09:00 BST, 5 April 685 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 06 April 710 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 7 April 755 Figures last updated 8 April 794 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 09 April 826 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 10 April 867 Figures last updated 11 April 895 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 12 April 934 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 13 April 957 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 14 April 972 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 15 April 1001 Figures last updated 16 April 1026 Figures last updated 17 April 1053 Specimen date 2020-04-17 1075 Figures last updated 19 April 1089 Figures last updated 20 April 1105 Specimen date 2020-04-20 1105 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 22 April 1126 Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 23 April Daily increments: 2, 15, 5, 25, 12, 12, 28, 24, 5, 15, 27, 28, 44, 37, 29, 46, 3, 47, 59, 42, 50, 20, 62, 37, 25, 32, 45, 39, 41, 28, 39, 23, 15, 29, 25, 27, 22, 14, 16, 0, 21, Note: On 18 April I downloaded the ?revised-format UK cumulative confirmed cases file from https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#local-authorities. The series apparently has the same endpoint as the single figures reported each day on the BBC, but I'm not sure how they reconcile on a day-by-day basis. In any case a moving average, over several days, is a better way of making any apparent trends more obvious. I'll see about preparing a graph showing this.

> how many people in Southwark have it? Eleven confirmed cases so far. That's bound to be a bit less than the actual figure. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

Can you perhaps entice it into posing again but getting a better focused picture, with maybe a ruler or coin beside it for size judgment. Not that that'll help me identify it at all, but it would make it more interesting.

seenbeen wrote at 00:27: ------------------------------------------------------- > Under the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act, it's > illegal in the UK to: pick flowers in public parks > or community gardens, pick flowers on National Trust > property or nature reserves. Which sections of the Act are you referring to?

> Hubby phoned BT who think it is our outside line which > I do not believe is correct as I have internet connection That's quite consistent, and typical. As DF has I think said eleswhere, the voice and the internet signals use greatly different frequencies, so that your internet can be working while your voice line isn't. If BT have done a line check and say that the fault is in the outside line, that's good news for you. No need to risk having an engineer in and entailing a hefty charge if they find that the fault is within the house. I dare say you'll find that the line fault will be remedied within a few days. The only other indoor test action I've seen recommended, apart from testing your phone in the master socket, is to try swapping in a different microfilter. But if it's an external problem, that's unlikely to make any difference.

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If anyone wants to use my Bulb link I will give ?30 to a charity of your choice. PM me for the link. I've previously objected to the use of this forum as a money-making device by people who want to just publish their link and rake the money in. I think it's ugly. I don't know if my countermeasure is much less so, but think it's worth trying. I'll refer this post to Admin anyway, and if he wants to remove all Bulb offers, including mine, that's fine. ETA: my post was, as can be surmised, in response to another one, now removed, in which someone gave their Bulb link. Since Admin hasn't removed mine I'll leave it up for the time being while I ponder. The actual Bulb working is in fact: "Get ?50 when you refer a friend to Bulb Refer Bulb to your friends and you'll each get ?50. Just give them your referral link." So I reserve the right to at least limit my offer to people I think I 'know' from their posts here, and don't feel uncharitably toward. If no takers, fine. I might well remove this post sometime tomorrow anyway.