mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "britains power elite who were responsible for > cromwells reign of terror, , mention that to the > irish of birmingham, guildford, manchester, > warrington, and london and i think you'll get your > eyes opened a wee bit." > > So let me get this right, I'm supposed to suffer > some sort of collective guilt for Cromwell. > But there is no collective guilt for blowing > people up in birmingham, guildford, manchester, > warrington, and london. Presumably because the > dead and maimed were not innocent people but all > tainted with that same collective guilt, but pity > the poor innocent Irish who suffered a backlash. > > It's rather having your cake and eating it too > isn't it? > > Funnily enough when living in Amsterdam for a > year, no Dutchman ever asked (the spanish half of) > me to feel guilty for the actions of the Duke of > Alba or his successors, and he made Cromwell look > like a school playground bully by comparison. no you,re not supposed to feel collective guilt, the same way i dont feel guilt anymore for bishopsgate,docklands etc.mind you at the time living in london it was a different story, despite the fact it was nothing to do with me that didn,t appear to matter too much to the few individuals i encountered, but thats the way of the world and always will be.