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DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I would just have 10 more rooms to fill with > crap..junk..clutter.. > > Foxy I would love a 10 minute 'time freeze' in Fox's house Much stuff in there from 'the shop' I imagine Does Castrol GTX go off?

Crabs in the attic Basic premise is; you move your crabs into your neighbour's massive attic Simple I know, but a winner

Note to self 'read the thread'

'Them' Oh hell bollocks, all this for them I imagine there's quite an 'atmosphere' at VK Towers

TOASTED is very French Age, skills Other?

But Maulumbu and Jules-and-Boo, neither of you are 'Leader' of the Labour Party, or potentially in line to run the friggin country Nothing will change, it's just worth noting for when we go to vote again

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Taken from the Giles annual 2003 > > I wonder how many of us will want to do the same > after the results are in ? > > Dogger You need to stop talking in your head, and put down a coherent post Blimey man, you're making Fox look like Paxman

miga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it's even simpler. The voting public is > conservative. In - the public knows the score. Out > - the great unknown. Indeed, and either option has a sack of statistics to back up their argument However, nobody really trusts the tsunami of stats, so we go mostly on our instincts Hence ultimately, the decision will be based on emotion and gut instinct. So expect fear, love, loss and abandonment over the next 70 odd days

Here's how I mentally picture the whole thing In my head, I've created "The Brexit Arms" public house Behind the bar is BoJo and Wassis face Farage, pulling British pints and 'hurrahing' as they do so It's full of fag smoke, they sell pies and it's populated by the likes of Foxy, Louisa and now Dogger along with many more of the Forum odd bods. A bit like the Wishing Well in Bellenden road used to be So I ask myself, do I want to go in or just walk on by Simple answer, NO *Feel free to PM me your Forum odd bod, I'll edit the clientele of TBA accordingly*

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ironically, we, us lot who see him as at BEST an > incompetent idiot are in an echo chamber of our > own- the others aren't listening :) If it wasn't really happening, it'd be funny. And in some ways it is funny, because we have to go along with it all. The whole way Uncle Jez was voted in, the theatre of what's happening, will in retrospect be made into a documentary of some kind. And then some people 'actually' see him as PM material. I don't really dig Cameron and his scrum, but having them there (and given the state of the Labour Party) thank God Did I really say that? God help!

Isn't car tax kinda progressive already Like if you can afford a Range Rover you get whacked at the top rate But if you've a Nissan Micra it's way in the lower bracket

Really Lou, since when did 'fear of ridicule' stop you posting anything I think if you refresh the "daffodils' thread at a relevant seasonal point, it would be received with...Erm....the joys of Spring Yes...

That has made my week. Very good to see some creativity going on there Can we get this as a tea towel.....please

Dullywood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/ > 05/myron-yarde-knife-crime-school > This thread is as cringeworthy as the above > article. Nothing but virtue signalling, and a > witch hunt of Richard. Two edits and that's as good as you get Be honest, how many times have you checked this thread to see what the response to your post is? Exciting isn't it, if that's your 'thing'

Lynne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nobody needed my seat. Bus nearly empty. > Complainant spent rest of journey swearing "f ing > London f ing stinks" and so on. I had thought of > engaging him in a rational debate, but, oddly, > didn't. I think you met a Maudsley 'client' on your journey

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now the sun is out, Spring is here I take the > opposite Bet to reg ... Now let's see if my > betting skills (unlike the 3 fallers I had at the > national) are good uns or not.. Jeezus H, what the hell are you talking about Dogger? Words man, sentences, conclusions We can't see into your silly head you know Tisk

My mate has left his caravan on a road in Sydenham for years, no bother other than someone once moved into it for a few days. That said it is a huge street/avenue Make of that what you will

Just to be clear, the 'them and us' concept hasn't worked well for any community, or law enforcement service. It's less than helpful when one group see's the other group as the enemy of some kind. Black, White, Brown, Police and the youth and so on I've seen first hand how this hinders the solving and prosecution of a crime. And it hinders cohesion in all of those that want to make a difference, to help and contribute to a lawful outcome. I went to a public meeting when a boy was killed in my area, and was utterly appalled by the self serving crap that came out of people's mouths. Age doesn't equate wisdom, tho some elders might assume it does. I spoke openly and privately with the police, and the message was much the same: if you have information, then share it. It's the only way crime will be solved. The trouble is that people have thier agendas and reasons not to share and be stigmatised by the crimes within their communities. And locking people up will only happen if all the information is gathered and made good use of But, what I did witness was the power of getting all strands and members of the community to attend the meetings. I saw people of all ages, colour, along with the police (who took some very strong comments) and the youth team in our area. And once people mixed, had the ability to express their mistrust, then to then grow that trust once based on our common aim, then even the most reluctant stepped up and helped. Some eventually went to court and help successfully prosecute the case, and I'd not thought I'd see that at the begining How the crime evolved to a boy killing another, is in itself tragic, pathetic and ultimately futile. But the after effects of that nite will be felt and known first hand by many, young, old, black, white etc . And I don't want to say the boy didn't die in vain, because he did. But there were lessons learned and lives changed, and the experiences will effect the outcomes of those who witnessed it, and live with it. What I'm trying to say is 'we are them and they are us' and it will change, if we somehow will and can contribute to that change

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > So slacks, brogues and pink polo shirt on the > > weekend... with a sweater casually draped over > > your shoulders? > > Spot on Jeremy. I also carry a copy of the FT to > swot away the little guys.... Pink polo and a pink newspaper ? You are a quite the spiv Ha!

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > richard tudor Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Perhaps actually saying what social strata and > > culture the problem stems from might be a good > > first step in solving the problem. > > Well I think we all have a pretty good idea of > what the main demographic might be, so why the > urgent need to spell it out? In my experience the 'them and us' concept hasn't been very helpful

richard tudor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps actually saying what social strata and > culture the problem stems from might be a good > first step in solving the problem. > > Unfortunately people are afraid to point the > finger. Until that happens you can discuss until > the cows come home. Go on then Rich, where do you want to point your finger ?

I agree Jez, though there has to have a range of services. And those services have to be broad and modern. I am strongly in support of locking up dangerous and violent criminals, but imprisonment needs to offer more than a lack of Liberty. I support a robust justice system along with integrated social programmes to support the normalising of non-offending and community minded behaviour. I suppose the dream is much like the Fire service. Prevention being the greater part, but action when required. I'm not sure the Police force could ever get that far, but it's got to be worked towards I think

The kids who carry knives know it's a crime, but they know there's other kids carrying knives, so they do it too. They're young, naive, stupid, clever and pretty much any other tag you want to put on them. But they are there, part of our communities and not 'over there' somewhere else, out of the way. They are sons and daughters, they go to your kids schools, inhabit the neighbourhood's we all live in So now we're past the 'it's a crime' bit, what do we do. Because these kids will carry an knife whatever the outcome of the law, as they're doing it to protect themselves, against someone like themself. So yes, fill up the prisons further, throw away the keys. Only there's not and will never be enough prisons. And the prisons we have are failing to deliver education programmes, because they're so overstretched already. So then what? Whether you want to engage or not, there is an underlying issue of a group/culture/those who will carry out crimes, including the use of knives on others. And we can't turn a blind eye to it, because we're seeing the outcomes on our streets and it won't stop unless those within that group, culture have the opportunity and support to take the message and model of change into their own communities. And if locking people up worked, how come so many keep being locked up again and again. Ultimate change must come from within, it is most sucessful through education and the chance to move forwards in life, with knowledge and self determination. But this will always take time, it's slow and people are less than patient. Governments are less than inclined to start or manage the project with a timeline of a generation or more. It's also expensive, but then so is prison. So what do we want to see? Full prisons that don't work, or action plans and services that spread across multi-agencies and accept that these will take time and effort of some magnitude to deliver. And ultimately, it's not up to government, it's up to us the community, the people who live here. We vote and we demand, engage with, recoil from what's available. But there is a price, both in money, time and will

Is this a dating thread ?

If you take the time, hire the 'decent accountant' you'd be amazed what you can claim back and for, and each year it tweaks and changes. If you hire a tax adviser who's hobby is attending every tax seminar there is, then even better. I'm endlessly amazed and sometimes a little "WTF really?" At what's doable and legit claim wise, and you'd be daft not to take them up And morality, what is that exactly ?