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I agree with JoeLeg on everything. It is only a certain kind of person that displays the inverse snobbery that PeckhamGuy and Sidebirds have. It's the kind of inverse snobbery that becomes the excuse for hate, ignornance and a lazy outlook on the world. He has no intention of answering to his view that there is 'nothing wrong' with that neo nazi website. Fortunately, his kind don't represent the working class either.

Aha, so now know for sure that this survey is linked to libdem canvassing.

Yes that fire is truly awful and heartbreaking.

Lots of good points above. Russia has a small economy, that is her biggest problem really. And I agree that Putin has to be mindful of that. Any kind of extensive war would bankrupt her pretty quickly, as would extreme sanctions or as you all point out, tampering with one of her best revenue streams. So I don't think anything as far as war would suit her. My feeling is that all of this (and that includes all of the other things underhand that Russia and Putin have done) is that Russia likes to push at the boundaries, and be a nuisance. It's flexing muscles, and keeping dissidents afraid, to consolidate power. Russia has always played this game. I do though agree with the point made that perhpas Putin has sought to test the Western alliance. There is only one reason why Russia would have wanted Trump in the Whitehouse, or the UK out of the EU. He probably will have been surprised by the united show from not only Europe, but America too, with these diplomatic expulsions. All of those nations involved understand perfectly the bigger picture here, that the West can not afford to give Putin even one example of disunity when it comes to matters of security.

Tow trucks might have been bailiffs rather than Police, or some other authority. They probably were never there for animal welfare reasons. I too echo the good wishes for those pursuing on this.

I think all three of you are right. Useful distraction for May and Putin will come out fighting if pushed too far. Where do we get our gas from again?

It is certainly an international show of support. T May has done well on that front. It won't make an once of difference to Putin of course.

Also try tech forums on the internet Sue. You might find someone with a solution or who has managed to write a new driver. Try searching for something like 'my scanner (model number) no longer works with windows 10'. There is usually a way to roll back to previous drivers too (I can't remember how) but have solved a few problems like this that I have had, thanks to some bright spark on a tech forum. Good luck.

Sounds like a clear case for the RSPCA now. If the dog is underweight, it could have some underlying condition that is not being treated rather than being underfed. The RSPCA should now surely respond to this?

James, this is not a council survey, it is your political party survey. And it is at best random. A council led consultation would consult with every household within a proposed CPZ area. Your survey is designed for identifying residents that might support your political agenda, nothing more.

But I would also say that PeckhamGuy (like anyone else) has to take repsonsibility for what he writes. He could have responded by saying that he hadn't looked at the site properly but on a second viewing he could see the problems with it. But he didn't. Instead he choose to laugh at everyone with snowflake emojis. The far right often use reported cases of criminal behaviour from individuals that come from the groups they seek to demonise to justify their hatred. The rational response is to counter that with reported cases where white Brits have engaged in criminal behaviour. The point being that all types of people are capable of heinous crime. PG seemed to argue that context and agenda does not matter in the selection of which cases to highlight on that site. That is either genuine stupidity, or deliberate trolling or an alignment with the views expressed by the site. That is the question PG seems reluctant to answer and it is perfectly ok for others to ask it.

Quite. It could not be clearer. They what to know who you are and how you are likely to vote for one reason only, which has nothing to do with CPZones. It is the dishonesty behind some of the purpose for the survey that is irritating people James.

LOL Penguin. Agree with everyone else. This is not a survey genuinely only interested in a balanced perspective of views, it is an exercise to find a canvassing hit list for (I presume) the coming local elections.

Trolling on a forum that he advertises hi livelihood on - not very smart either way is it.

Do you really think there is nothing extreme or worthy of condemnation on that site PeckhamGuy? It is a simple question, one simple emough that even you should be anle to answer. And when you answer that question, take a look at your deleted post again (it is copied in the following post) and have a really good think about it.

It is not just fishing that could hit the bottom, it's agriculture too. Farming has the benefit of huge EU subsidies and protections from foreign competition. Half our food exports are to the EU. The subsidies alone amount to ?3bn. Are the government going to replace that? There is a growing queue of beneficiaries of current EU funding making a play for that ?11bn in membership fee we are going to save.

And ultimately, the council can invoke a CPO. So Meadow can not win on this. One way or another they will be forced to sell to the council. It is just a question of how much for. Meadow really couldn't care less about the football club though - and that is perhaps the most ruthless aspect to this.

So now you are assuming to apply motive in yet another of your trademark essays in reply to a simple short post. This is why you get into rows with people on here again and again. Drop the sarcasm at the end and stop jumping down people's throats when they have a different view to your own. There is information in your post that I did not know, which is useful. But it still remains that it is a pub, orperating as a business. It is not a charity. And there are plenty of organisations that are not business enterprises or pubs, doing all the things you list above in communities everywhere. I am not telling anyone not to buy shares am I? All I have said is that as an enterprise it is just breaking even (which is true) and that there is no return on buying shares, which is also true. And finally, it is up to the individual where they choose to donate their money. And it is perfectly fine to have a view on that too. In reply to Sheff.... This is what all businesses do. They feed into the local economy. I'm just not sure what the purpose of the shareholder equity is within the model of a business, when there is neither no return, nor option to cash in the shares when there are rules like DF cites above.

But if I want to 'donate' money to something, I can pick any number of charities that do something more meaningful than a pub for example. I don't doubt for one moment the achievement here. Just breaking even in any pub these days seems to be a challenge for a lot of publicans. But when a business seeks to sell more 'shares' there is usually a reason for needing to raise the extra finance. Dismissing my point with comments about dull ISA's and stuff is just infantile. I looked at Sue's link. I looked at the financial reports, and I should be able to say what I think from that.

Isn't it like most forums? A heady mix of sanity and madness alike. No-one forces anyone to read anything and different people will take different things from it.

It's not the first bonkers exchange here, and probably won't be the last either :)

Looking at the financial records it has struggled to make a profit year on year, making a small loss in 15 and a bigger one in 16. before cancelling out those losses with slightly bigger profit in 17. Seems to be just about breaking even overall (after 5 years). At ?100 a share, seems a bit risky.

2wans.... It is called canvassing and all political parties do it, especially when they have a sitting councillor (as ED does), all year round. Why? Because it is a good way to ask people if there is anything they would like to see the council address or do better. They will even happily chat with trouble making trolls like you.

Yes Springtime - I mean Britain First - although I don't think there is any difference between the two groups in reality. Hatred is usually learned UG. Learned from peers, family, culture, media etc. It takes a number of approaches to combat it.