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Or the Police as he is clearly conning people.

Even a dog on a a lead can jump. This idea that dogs MUST but under perfect control is bonkers. It is quite clear the dog was playing with another dog and accidentally ran into the child on a bicyle. The dog can't have been very big or it would have knocked the child over, so we are probably talking about a smallish dog, and it was not in a dogs on leads area anyway! Be sensible about this.

But I think if a child did accidentally knock over a pensioner Rendel, it would be seen for the unintentional accident that it was. I get the issue around the park rules, and that's fair enough, but there are other areas where dogs are allowed off the leash, other parks with no rules and even common off road routes where pedestrians, dogs and cyclists mix. I cycle along several paths like this (the old canal route being one) and I just slow right down. Because if I see a dog, even one on a lead walking near me, I know it can suddenly move towards me in an instant (just like a small child). Dogs on leads don't walk in straight lines either.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blah Blah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Just sounds like an unavoidable accident in a > > shared space to me. > > As the dog was off the lead and not under control > in an area where it should have been both, > "entirely avoidable" would seem a more apposite > expression. I was in a supermarket today and a small child ran into me. Do I ask the parent keep it on a lead? No, I use common sense and accept that children aren't always aware of who is around them. As for dogs, toddlers get knocked over by the family pet on regular occasions. Clumsy accidents are always avoidable, but they are also part of life. I agree with the person above who pointed out that f you are going fast enough to crush a dog that strays into your path, then you might be going fast enough to crush a child as well. Worth thinking about. I see the OP as a reasonable expression of annoyance over unresonable outrage though. People will always ignore the rules (or may not even be aware of them). It's better to be civil about these things in the long run.

Just sounds like an unavoidable accident in a shared space to me. And yes, the responsibility is always with the cyclist to anticipate sudden obstacles, which is why, when I cycle through a park, I slow down to walking pace when passing or near to dogs and small children, and just any person in fact.

Yes, sadly, some of the best supported charities euthanize perfecly healthy animals after a period of time. Yet other charities, like Celia Hammond manage to never euthanize a healthy animal.

Everything dies eventualy Springtime but as Rendel says, wild horses tend to die from natural illness not forced gymnastics and most wild horses also live on open land that is easy for them to roam.

Hey Elphinstone. I actuslly did grow up in the country and my parents and one of my brothers still live there running the family farm. I think you know nothing about it. There are humane ways to kill animals and birds and there are sociopathic ways as demonstrated by these boys, who were not for one moment concerned about the size of the pidgeon population.

A horse died at Aintree three days ago. The Grand National was always designed to be a testing curcuit with more regard for spectacle than the safety of horses. Even though today, more focus is on safety, a horse stil dies jumping Becher's Brook, and for what? So someone somewhere can make a few quid. To me, horse racing is no different to fox hunting. It pushes horses to their limits and opens them up to completely preventable stress and injury just so that someone can get a jolly somewhere. The saddest thing is how those horses that do manage to survive a life of racing end up when their trainers no longer want them.

I think the council are the ones to contact on this. They will go after flytippers legally if they have evidence of who is guilty.

It seems like a display of brinkmanship to me. I'm not sure who was most supposed to be more impressed, Assad or Russia. And it will make not one iota of difference to anything happening in Syria either.

Trump just annouced (at 2am UK time) that strikes were under way with the help of Frnace and the UK, in a speech so obviously written for him.

Hi Kwayz. Was the orginal burn first or second degree, and did you seek treatment at the time? It takes around 18 months for a second degree burn to fade. And you should avoid sunburn on the affected area to aid that healing.

Well you can apologise, but there are good reasons to oppose horse racing from an animal welfare perspective. I will spare the usual complaints about injury and training cruelty and ask just this. What on earth is the point of horse racing? Betting on animals whipped to run as fast as they can around a track! What purpose does it serve?

I think it depends on who is rehoming. I personaly don't like to see people selling animals, but as I understand it, that is not allowed on this forum. But let's say someone, for reasons they can not help, has to find a new home for their pet. I know of many people who have been turned away by rehoming charities seeking that help, because charities are overwhelmed. So what are they supposed to do? If they can not use a forum like this, then where do they go? I would argue that because of the demographic nature of this forum, that they are more likely to find a good home here for a pet, than some other ottions like gumtree (you will find people trying to rehome pets there too). I would say this is a good forum to find responsible new owners for a pet.

Crikey! The Mail doesn't pull any punches though as to the kind of ideology behind this group. That has to be a good thing.

Agreed Robbin. It is a sad sequence of events.

You can't help but feel that Mr Brooks is being further victimised by this. Are the family of the burglar just being facetious in their behaviour, given that he did not actually die at the house, but in the next street while fleeing (according to reports). Any threats of retribution must be taken seriously by the Police. This is a family with a history of distraction burglaries on elderly people for which two members are currently serving jail sentences. So these are not reasonable people.

It is reported that Mr Brooks and his disabled wife are not able to return home yet and have been subject to threats from the family of the killed burglar. The family also have had the audacity to put hundreds of flowers and cards literally on the doorstep of the pensioner's home (neighbours have moved them to the pavement off the property).

Still no lifting of the block? Btw I had to go back three years to find that username and there is a whole section of that person being accused of being me (I think it was around the time I joined this forum oddly). No proof offered and what looks some bullying going on as well. Seriously, not good. The only way to conclusively prove that two users are the same is if they they both use the same static IP address. I don't think data protection law allows sharing that info, but I use a dynamic IP which changes every so often automatically, and it is possible for any dynamic IP to be used by others over time. This is also why blocking people doesn't really work either. They can just come back from a different dynamic IP (as no doubt PG will) if they are determined to be disruptive.

Am I in a Franz Kafka novel? This is just getting more surreal! Who on earth is DJKillaqueen?

I have not been on this forum before. I have no connection to those names.

What are you taiking about Administrator? I have never been warned about anything? I don't even know what you are talking about above! I am reporting Sean of Dulwich now to you for threatening behaviour. I can send you all of the pms. You still have not given me a reason for locking me out of EVERY area of the forum, no good one anyway. Are you going to lift the block?

Thanks guys. Yes Admin does a great job in making this forum even possible and I would be the last person to levy criticism, but on this occasion, I think they have it wrong. Quite a few people (if not everyone) have been brilliant and eloquent on this thread. There has been some good discussion (and differing opinions) around side issues as well, and it has been done with respect. All apart that is from one person(s). You have to be passionate about things sometimes because they really matter. Endorsement of groups like those behind the poster that started this thread is no laughing matter. I have finally arrived at a place where I have had enough of PG and his alias.