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Aaaaaaarrrrggghhh. Nutter alert! Yep, that's me put off, and I'm only on Season 3. Sheeeet.

Just watching Northern Exposure on DVD, but in searching out where it was filmed , I discovered that the spectacular and sexually charged Maggie is now a host of Tea Party events who says that Obama stole God from her children. Ho hum....

Sorry acm, just to clarify, you're saying your Grandmother at the age of 70+ had "Get Out" sprayed on her door? Is that what you're saying?

Sorry acm, just to clarify, you're saying your Grandmother at the age of 70+ had "Get Out" sprayed on her door? I'll be thinking there's more to this than you're telling us about.

I think it's the ultimate in silliness if you believe the PR puff on websites. You'll be telling us the BNP is multi-racial next.

Remember to adjust the smoke flaps on your teepee before you fall asleep, or it's stingy eyes in the morning ;-)

Dolly Parton? Isn't she on at the O2 this week? My mates all got her autograph last year, but I bet none of them knew the words to any of her songs. Bah.

Hello Dolly! You're a very lucky lady. The only real quality we get here is during GP weekend, but tickets are a grand. SG had Dolly last year, but sadly not me.

Ha ha, nah - that's too simple. :)) The first thing boils down to 'have I got what I want'? The second thing boils down to 'has he got what I want'?

What has the price got to do with anything?

Well, let's be clear, there is no evidence at all that it was a conspiracy. There is enormous amounts of evidence that it wasn't. If you're still sitting On the fence it's because you want to, not because there's a problem with the evidence. That's like me saying I'm on the fence about Jupiter being made by mice out of playdoh.

I'm sorry LD, but none of these are on a par with claiming that the government killed 3,000 of its own citizens to bag some cash and hide some documents. And let's not forget that 911 is being used as an example to prove that there is a New World Order out there determine to bankrupt the world and starve and enslave the citizens. Rendition - nothing to do with it at all. That's the intelligence services in a time of war. Not saying it's not bad - just saying it has nothing to do with the premise of this thread.

Sorry, MMR, not MMA. Typo The usual scare story circulated by bullshitters looking for attention. In this case claiming that the MMR vaccine caused autism and it was only being distributed to save the government money. Dead kids and permanent disfigurements created by the conspiracy theory shitheads.

No New Nexus, that's just a great example of where you are misrepresenting the facts to generate fear and panic. Neither of the first two tests were of harmful bacteria, and it's necessary to investigate to the possible effects of the release of harmful bacteria in this way. The final one is just an attack on a rather shameful clinical test, not quite on the scale of the syphilis experiment. Do you recognize that the essence of your complaint is that the US government did not give the public the full picture, when you deliberately attempt to disguise the full picture from the readers of this forum? I'm interested if you plan to apologize for the children that died in the UK after the outrageous MMA scare distributed by conspiracy theorists scared mothers into failing to vaccinate their children? No, I thought not. You talk about America having lost control (as if it's now), and then cite two examples almost half a century ago and one two decades ago. Must try harder.

And tragic and a crime against humanity. Slightly different scale wouldn't you say? Unless you're claiming that this was also a precursor to destroying the planet and putting in place the New World Order? Sorry, no, of course you wouldn't say. ;-)

Just create a new account and log in with the new account rather than the old one. If you need a new email address set yourself up a one-time address with Yahoo. Your old username will drop below the fold (i.e. out of sight) in no time at all.

That's that ole Messiah complex coming through again New Nexus - comparing yourself with Columbus this time?

In taxing the wealthy, the only difference between higher income tax and a property tax is that the property tax also hits people who live in high value houses who don't have an income. Predominantly this is pensioners. Therefore the only unique argument for a Mansion tax is asset stripping pensioners. QED this thread is about asset stripping pensioners. I think the rest of your argument is calculated on tax mathematics that you simply haven't done. The evidence from elsewhere, as I've pointed out before, and you've ignored, is that property taxes simply cannot generate enough income to make a measurable contribution to overall tax take. This means that your view that 'in principle' it means lower tax to youth, 'in practice' means no change at all. The reason why you continue to argue in spite of this wealth of evidence to the contrary is that this pointless tax can only possibly appeal as an envy or punishment tax.

As is reasonably apparent, I'm allowing people to make an informed judgment upon the quality and provenance of the information. ;-)

New Nexus gets caught touching himself over the Colbert Report whilst wearing his sister's clothes... http://www.theprezzyshop.co.uk/collectables/camberwick/large_images/cg20.jpg

Both sides of the argument? There aren't two 'sides' to an argument here. In the loony bin we have a double of dozen dickheads who make their way around conferences attended by paranoid delusionals who watched some footage overlaid with dya-glo captions in poor English about the New World Order and Dick Cheney. At the NSIT they complemented its in-house expertise with an array of specialists in key technical areas. In all, over 200 staff contributed to the Investigation. NIST and its contractors compiled and reviewed tens of thousand of pages of documents; conducted interviews with over a thousand people who had been on the scene or who had been involved with the design, construction, and maintenance of the WTC; analyzed 236 pieces of steel that were obtained from the wreckage; performed laboratory tests, measured material properties, and performed computer simulations of the sequence of events that happened from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. Cooperation in obtaining the resource materials and in interpreting the results came from a large number of individuals and organizations, including The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and its contractors and consultants; Silverstein Properties and its contractors and consultants; the City of New York and its departments; the manufacturers and fabricators of the building components; the companies that insured the WTC towers; the building tenants; the aircraft manufacturers; the airlines; the public, including survivors and family members; and the media.

That's not true again New Nexus - you're making stuff up again. What is wrong with you, you know if you lie you get caught out every time? From the NIST summary report finally update September 2010 BTW, it answers all your other stupid questions too. Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7? Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event. In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB ) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert. For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.

Or put it another way... I've just tossed a hypothetical coin twenty times, and it came out as follows: H(eads)T(ails)HTHTTTHTHTTHTTHHHT The odds of that happening are 1 in 1,048,576 For a conspiracy theorist, the likelihood of generating this run of results randomly is so extreme that it 'proves' it's been fixed. For a sane person, the challenge of fixing this is so extreme that it is self-apparently more likely to be just luck. However, because a conspiracy theory relies on the fact the something 'unseen' is taking place, it can never be proven that it's not been fixed. How insane is that?

I'm reminded by a call I had when I was at an well know internet company a decade ago. On the phone was a furious lunatic who had his motorbike stolen the previous evening. That morning he logged on to Yahoo! and saw a police advertisement for Crimestoppers on the site. He had come to the conclusion that the police had stolen his bike, and were reselling them through Yahoo. In his view Yahoo was being paid off in advertisement revenue for fencing the bikes. Technically this was possible. If we had his address and log-on we could have served him an ad as an individual. However, it would involve a conspiracy of such pointless and complex proportions that only a lunatic could concoct this ridiculous conviction. His 'proof' that we had done it was that we couldn't 'prove' that we hadn't. I asked him what proof he would accept, and he said 'nothing', his mate down the pub had told him and that was that. Quite clearly a complete cretin. Yet for New Nexus and LD, Russia Today and the Colberts of this world have become their completely reliable mate down the pub. They are prepared to accept anything this crowd say because it satisfies their paranoia. This is even though the very people they're listening to say that they don't believe what they're transmitting and are only doing it for the hell of it. How insane is that?

Judging by the time of posting, I think Silverfox had probably been mixing whisky and Horlicks with unfortunate side-effects. Interestingly he does touch on one of the challenges addressed by many celebrated philosophers, not the least of which was Nietzsche. The essence of the problem was whether people had to externalise their thoughts or convictions before they became valid. i.e. you could think a lot of good thoughts, but if you only did bad things, were you essentially good or bad? In this case, are we obliged to externalise our goals and objectives before we can claim success? If we must, then will our success largely be defined by other people? If we don't share our objectives, then can we claim any success at all: since most of us carry a bundle of conflicting ideas in our heads most of the time, will we probably just revise our original goals to meet whatever we have achieved?