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The response that Cllr McAsh promised was on LTNs, nothing to with with ULEZ. Please keep the thread on topic.

There are some reasonable requests from OneDulwich, that Cllr McAsh said he would address and he so far has not addressed these issues. Other Cllrs also promised to press Southwark to find ways of taking the added pressure of diverted traffic away from Croxted - and so have achieved nothing - although I note this was a pre-local election promise. I really can't understand anyone's objection to having clarity, openness and transparent information - especially when it relates to residents physical and mental health.

LTN quiz! Who said: "Complaining that the South Circular has traffic on it is ridiculous. It the job of the south circular to carry traffic. Complaining about that is like going into a vegetarian restaurant and complaining that there’s no steak on the menu." a. Boris Johnson b. Simon Munk c. Rosamund Kissi-Debrah d. Richard Leeming

Ugh... nasty 😷. Well I’m in the Shropshire hills right now and the air smells amazing, not looking forward to going back to smelly air today 🤨

It’s complex but this is a nice explanation https://www.londonair.org.uk/londonair/guide/SummerSmog.aspx

The utter incompetence of Thames Water, Conway and Southwark Council...A confederacy of idiots.

There has been no data published for over a year from Southwark and as it did not measure congestion or traffic travelling below a certain speed (often quoted as 10-20km/hr), only registering traffic that was free-flowing with ATCs placed in incorrect areas (near junctions). My lived experience along with residents and bus users say different, as does TFL about our bus routes on residential red routes. It is a failed experiment, poorly designed. The BBC reported Newcastle, but there is also Ealing and Tower Hamlets where LTNs were seen as flawed and creating congestion and pollution in the poorest communities.

An emergency road closure is not design... When main residential roads and Red Routes controlled by TFL which carry over 30 per cent of all traffic, have more traffic deliberately forced onto them, the increased congestion and delay for local people is an issue. Naïve polling that points to big majorities favouring LTNs never ask follow-up questions about resulting congestion and delay. Perhaps most significantly for long-standing Labour supporters, which I used to be - is that Southwark ignored the reality that LTNs primarily displace traffic from the roads of the prosperous to the roads of the poorer and more disadvantaged residents, consider the South Circular and Lordship Lane which already suffer from high levels of air pollution. The additional congestion and stalled traffic offer no alleviation. It is a policy that goes against all the principles of social justice.

Well Southwark LTNs were certainly not 'designed' - one only has to look at the implementation as a Covid-19 'LTN' put in place due to Tory led emergency powers - Southwark should have followed the example of Ealing and committed to restoring local democracy by reverting to established processes of public consultation and removing all 'emergency' LTNs. This should have included an assessment of the impact of any proposed LTNs on traffic levels on the main residential roads in the borough, both in terms of the well-being of the residents who live on them and the impact on public transport and emergency services. So not designed...

Yes I had some clinics in there, very sad the onion tops went and now more incompetence means the chateau is at risk. More mess, traffic, dust pollution and noise for East Dulwich Grove residents, as well as the loss of our physic garden, which we were promised by Southwark would be replaced..... Meanwhile Gilkes Crescent with their huge gardens and enormous houses have been promised a courtyard green space and park. What is it about the wealthy, white elite of Dulwich owning 2-3 million pound houses that attracts Council money from Southwark, compared to my ethnic minority neighbours, with three kids in a small rental flat, working 2 jobs each and having no garden. I know who deserves a community garden more..... It’s all about power and careers for this Council.

Can you guide us all to this less increase in congestion and how is congestion defined? Because the Dept of Transport says... Regardless of whether it is defined physically or relatively, the effects of increased congestion are typically characterised by:  Slower speeds  Longer journey times  Increased queuing at junctions or bottlenecks  Increased stopping and starting  More time spent stationary  Less predictable journey times Which definitely fits into TFL's complaints to Southwark Council re: certain roads post implementation of you-know-whats..... Not numbers of vehicles. Which begs the question. Why did Southwark avoid measuring congestion as suggested by many a resident.

I sent to my Cllr at the time, a couple of months ago, with photos of lime bikes blocking the pavement and a complaint. They are all too busy on their careerist climbing up the greasy pole of politics to care.

Yes ... I remember, the little bus was not welcome by the residents of Court Lane and Calton Avenue, where it was originally meant to run, as it was not in keeping with the area.... so much for encouraging public transport use.

There is a huge bike parking space just across the road to me, usually filled with.....no bikes and a few scooters on their sides. Meanwhile I have video footage of a van dropping lime bikes on the pavement all down East Dulwich Grove, including outside the newer block of flats across from the school and health centre. So extra parking spaces will not solve the issue of bikes abandoned on pedestrian areas.

He gave me some nerines,. When the new build was planned he was offered a lot of money...but would never sell - I would love Southwark Council to put a preservation order on it so it can only be a garden and never be built on.

Makes complete sense that the P13 travels this way, but it won’t happen as residents in Court Lane like their private road, the two Dulwich Cllrs will not allow this. Selfishness is inherently part of the local politics.

Southwark Council has done nothing to improve public transport (as this has been discussed as a reason for CPZ - which incidentally I support, even though dangerous parking and idling cars are still part and parcel of every school run to Alleyn’s, JAGs and the other private schools on the Herne Hill/Dulwich border). In fact the bus journeys of buses on LL, ED Grove and Croxted to get to work, school etc are much, much worse and a lot longer in term s of journey time, since this Council put in certain policies. Meanwhile Manchester brings in a fleet of publically owned yellow bee electric buses - fantastic.

Yep...looked at bit of a ‘mare. Thames water of course......

LL looked closed to all traffic at the Townley Rd junction when I walked past. Thames Water.

It’s not flu season, so it is very, very likely Covid.. Keep hydrated, take paracetamol, monitor your breathing - if you feel breathless or dizzy get advice from 111. And get better soon both of you!

Same here, was walking in the lovely community orchard at the back of Sainsbury’s with a backpack of shopping and I heard a clicking sound behind me...a Lime bike at speed and I also jumped out of the way. Plus the abandoned ones in the wooded area. I also avoid the school run and get an earlier train, so I don’t get bikes and scooters rammed into the back of my ankles. It’s at present a minor issue compared to other problems, but I do worry someone will be injured.

There is a spike in infections. Probably nice to isolate yourself as vulnerable people can be very unwell with it, treat as flu and keep an eye on your breathing and temperature - it's a good idea to have a cheap oxygen saturation monitor in the house too. We should all be offered a vaccination IMO - have no idea why the JCVI is only offering boosters to a select few - I'll have one through work, but my partner won't - mad!

We went this evening -very good. Authentic and delicious!

I may agree with ULEZ, but critiquing research and reports is extremely important. Critiquing research, reports or opinion isn't cynical or discrediting someone - every researcher publishes in the knowledge that another colleague or expert, or even a student will be expected to critically analyse the research - we actively teach our students to do this! It's part of every rubric marking scheme. Students are taught critical analysis in research methods modules in every HEI in the UK. In fact the two health statisticians on the - Associations of long-term average concentrations of nitrogen dioxide with mortality (Chair Prof Kelly), are my colleagues and teach critical analysis on a research methods module. All this 'attack' and 'anger' business is the same rhetoric from some very dodgy political actors, it doesn't add to the discussion, it doesn't coerce anyone to a POV. Rocket's isn't attacking - they are giving a POV with their evidence, the academics understand and encourage critique. So maybe that line of discourse can stop now? and what do I think? I haven't read the Torygraph article as in a paywall - but I believe that it's about actions and e-mails rather than any research or reports. The report: Associations of long-term average concentrations of nitrogen dioxide with mortality, he chaired (Prof Kelly) - from the Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants is very good on the whole. Excellent statistical analysis and has some interesting text - showing that 'experts' also disagree fundamenatlly - which is normal in the fields of science. 'While not a unanimous decision (some Members disagreed fundamentally), we recommend quantification of the health benefits of interventions that primarily target emissions of oxides of nitrogen' and 'In the course of our work a number of points of disagreement arose between Members of the Committee. These points were discussed at length but some proved to be impossible to resolve.'

I would also add - pretending to be angry to try and coerce is used by some very suspect political actors. There is a bit too much of this 'I'm angry' 'I'm insulted' I'm upset' - again if you feel that posters are not abiding by the guidelines of posting with respect towards other posters at all times - then report the post. Critiquing research or opinion isn't cynical or discrediting someone - every researcher publishes in the knowledge that another colleague or expert, or even a student will be expected to critically analyse the research - we actively teach our students to do this! It's part of every rubric marking scheme. They are taught critical analysis in research methods modules in every HEI in the UK.