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If only - I have seen a Lime Bike van dumping them all over the pavement....videoed it and sent it to Southwark Council. It's a business not a Green Charity. No care or responsibility to the local residents.

It's a fact that the LCC had far too much input into 'redesigning' road space in London. At the same time as key figures in LCC (white/male/straight/able-bodied/middle-class) were putting out some very dodgy messages about certain ethnic groups. Anyways... the people excluded from these discussions were disability groups, residents, TFL and the London Ambulance Service - so what does that say about who was prioritised and who wasn't. Disability and impairment doesn't come with a badge, pass or equal access and this Government is planning to take even more access, funding and benefits away. If you want less reliance on cars campaign for buses to be funded centrally, more bus lanes and more local bus services...otherwise your commitment to less car use is just mealy mouthed, feathered guff.

I know I just wanted to appear as ridiculous as our feathered friend 😉

It’s ok Mr deflecting Chicken is fine. So let’s all stop complaining about air and noise pollution on school/ resedential roads and the disruption to buses - the main form of transport for many women, mum’s, people with disabilities and the least well off in our communities. As long as white, middle-class men can cycle freely then the planet is saved from its imminent demise due to fossil fuel use and greedy corporations. LTNs and cyclists have saved the planet - hurrah!

So that’s great for you and bikes are a brilliant form of green transport and great for your health. Quite how your experience of how great it is for you addressed the terrible toll on bus journeys for others I mentioned is something you appear to not address.

Ahh interesting info Legal- sort of back to LTNs, I travelled back home by the no 37 bus today. I usually take a train to Herne Hill and walk. I haven't really taken the 37 around school/ rush hour ish at 4:00 -5:00 - at all post LTNs as I tend to WFH or travel back around 14:00 or after 19:00. The bus was mainly women with children, women, some school kids, a few elderly and some people with disabilities - I would say racially diverse and probably more POC than the make-up inside LTNs in ED. The bus journey once it hit EDG was hellish - compared to the occasional journey the same way, I can honestly say it crawled. The bus driver being kind was letting people off anywhere so they could walk - I guess they are used to this crazy bus journey. Buses are so important to reducing car use and for people to travel in an efficient and 'green' way. Yes cycling and walking should be encouraged, but it's not a choice that can be made for some.

Well actually their statistical analysis and the narrative around the data manipulation is pretty poor. I spend a lot of the time grading qualitative and quantitative research in submitted thesis at this time every year, I’m not sure I would pass this study even at an undergraduate level. Some very simple mathematical application is deeply flawed and figures ‘massaged’ to give a bias to discount the null hypothesis.... which they fail to actually state. They should go out of their way to prove LTNs do not xxxxxxxx and prove the null incorrect, instead it’s.... what we call a bit ‘floppy’.

Do not have speed humps...they do not reduce speed but they will create noise and pollution. There are other measures...traffic islands or road changes. You will regret a speed hump.. trust me on this one.

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It was always a Tory policy, just look what streets were closed.. Calton Ave, Court Lane....making nice leafy roads nicer and house prices higher. It certainly looks as though the Labour Mayor has looked at the data, spoken to Rosamund and understands that this was greenwashing the concept of roads for the rich and roads for the poor with a negative overall effect on idling traffic and bus routes.

A white van just dumps them on the pavement. I watched them dump 7 on East Dulwich Grove yesterday on the pavement. Not in any sensible or designated area and on one side making access difficult.

I’ve nearly been hit by bikes when walking through there as they do not stick to the cycle lane, it’s just a fact.

For my part I would like free at the point if use public transport, that connects, trams would be great, and owned by the public and not for private profit. Taxes paying for PT completely. In London it’s better than some areas and I never drive in Greater London unless it’s for really heavy loads - probably about once a month? As for long journeys I can’t afford train prices, which is a shame as I would much rather travel by train. The PT in rural areas is just awful. LTNs have done nothing to improve PT links and they certainly have not impacted pollution levels. There is absolutely no study in the UK demonstrating with any statistical significance a positive impact on reducing pollutants from vehicles. I also suspect locally that pollution levels at peak rush hour/ school run has increased on certain roads in East Dulwich - but as Southwark did not measure pre and post LTNs and appear to be reticent to publish this data… nobody knows. I know that several friends living on Croxted have reported more asthma symptoms walking kids to school post LTN - the promised solutions for this road from Dulwich Councillors has been kicked into the long grass.

Please stay on subject - this is about how information about our residential roads is made available to us, not about road closures or emission zones. Discuss those in the lounge.

"Air pollution is a killer and the LTNs we’ve seen implemented by Labour in Croydon are not the answer when they displace traffic and pollution from one part of the community to another. We plan to install proper air quality monitoring and work with the data and community to help improve air quality for everyone.” So - who said this.. a climate denier? anti-vaxer? No a Green Party Parliamentary Candidate. I'm a Green Party member too and I agree with her. Grouping people together due to an opinion and writing, promoting that they all think the same and are the same is a very dangerous ploy, one used by the far right - I suggest that those who believe themselves to be more 'liberal' stay away from this. I imagine that some percentage of people who think that LTNs are great, also have a variance of other beliefs and thoughts. The article is terrible, but actually The Guardian has gone downhill over the last 10 years - a sad demise of one a great left-wing publication. This statement for a starter 'many anti-LTN attacks ignore the damages caused by rising road traffic' In fact almost all the 'traffic' on this subject from people anti LTNs in East Dulwich is because we know the damage of rising road traffic because it's now been diverted onto our Resedential road. These writers know it, you know it.. but so much easier to ignore.

You bring up another issue, past data should also be accessible, so residents can see the association of change with council policy, school holidays and seasonal effects. It’s all very poor - if you consider how much easier it is to collect and collate data now, the previous detailed report I added to the thread puts newer Council bodies to shame.

The zebra crossing make very little impact as cars have to stop or slow approaching the round about, but yes the temporary light have caused lots of issues as it was set up as a four way stop and originally drivers didn’t realise so thought lights were not working, so we’re going through red lights. The timing was also not quite right. I spoke to one of them walking up to LL when they were day 1 of digging another whole. There is very little flexibility in the system now, so the ambulance coming down that day had a big delay as couldn’t use Melbourne. I do wonder if an open end with cameras would be helpful for emergency access, but that’s for the forum tread really.

It’s important we know the amount of traffic and especially start-stop traffic on our local roads in East Dulwich as electric vehicles still pose a risk to health as they do not necessarily emit less PM2. 5 than internal combustion engine cars. (Although lightweight EVs emit an estimated 11-13% less PM2) As has already been said - there are no excuses, we have a right to have accessibility to this data. write to your local councillor demanding visibility and accountability

Again, if people want to discuss national strategy do this in the Lounge, this thread is about East Dulwich Street space Dashboard and the failure to update this information for over 6 months. Again I cannot believe that anyone living in East Dulwich is not interested in the levels of traffic and pollution on their doorstep. I suggest everyone contacts their local Councillor and asks for transparent and up to date information, at the very least on a quarterly basis.

and .....an idling engine burns fuel less efficiently and can produce up to twice the emissions of a car that is moving. It pumps out unnecessary sulphur dioxide, particulate matter and nitrogen oxide into the atmosphere, but of course stop-start technology and electric 'engines' are reducing this. What does cause more pollution is vehicle miles traveled being a strong correlate, but that might be for the 'you know what' in the lounge thread.

If you want to discuss carbon dioxide emissions (yes globally important) go to the lounge. This is about East Dulwich Dashboard - traffic and pollutants locally and as CO2 not measured locally - then not relevant. (happy to discuss CO2 in the lounge - the main human activity that emits CO2 is the combustion of fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and oil) for energy and transportation and Just Stop Oil have a point....). But again this is a thread asking for transparency and publication of data that was promised by the Council - what is the argument against?

Don’t really understand why carbon dioxide is being mentioned? Nitrogen dioxide NO2 (excuse the lack of subscript) is a very different gas, highly reactive and causes damage to the respiratory tract. It’s a major trigger for asthma and implicated along with PM in the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah in a landmark coroner’s report. It is important that we know the levels of Nitrous gases and particulates in our local environment in East Dulwich. I am sure that any asthmatic, COPD sufferer or a parent/guardian responsible for a child’s health would like access to this local data. Is anyone actually arguing against residents having access to this information?

In itself it is a very informative site, but none of these monitors are in East Dulwich, the nearest is the South Circular, that is weirdly not included in the dashboard if memory serves me right, So in keeping with this forum, the data from monitors in East Dulwich are relevant to residents rather than sites on The Old Kent Rd and Tower Bridge Rd. Apparently there are pollution monitors in East Dulwich, but access to data isn’t clear. I’m asking if our Council can publish data for East Dulwich specifically. It is just NO2 tubes... the last time data was published....wait for it ...was.... up to 1992, which is quite shameful. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/environment/air-quality/air-quality-monitoring-data The air pollution data for Southwark for the period 1950 to 1992 can be found in the Air Pollution in Southwark 1950 to 1992 report, which includes the following chapters: Chapter 1 Introduction (PDF, 2.8mb) Chapter 2 Sulphur Dioxide (PDF, 1.7mb) Chapter 3 Nitrogen Dioxide (PDF, 1.7mb) Chapter 4 Ozone (PDF, 740kb) Chapter 5 Lead (PDF, 1.1mb) Chapter 6 Carbon Monoxide (PDF, 909kb) Chapter 7 Radiation (PDF, 597kb) Chapter 8 Particulates (PDF, 2mb) Chapter 9 Conclusions Glossary Index (PDF, 1.7mb) And don’t bother with the excel ‘report’ on the webpage, nothing available as far as I can see. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/7491/NO2-Diffusion-survey-data-2012-2022-all-data.xlsx

Please keep the thread on topic, this is about the Council publishing data on traffic and pollution levels in East Dulwich for local residents. Trying to get this lounged by going back to you know what’s that are now a permanent feature is just trolling - so do go away if you are not interested in pollution and traffic congestion in East Dulwich. Quarterly figures would be fine I think, as long as the Council added some analysis around peak pollution levels. People can find the raw data once it’s published. I think the issue at the moment is none of it is accessible at the moment - last update was Sept 22 I think, so where is Dec 22 and March 23?