Ted Max

I went to school with someone called Karma. Naturally she had an affair with a much older man whilst still at school, which freaked her hippy parents right out of their sandals.

Has anyone seen PGC? I feel we might need to send in the authorities. 48 solid hours of Danny Boy, Scotch Concoctions and lachrymose semi-wakefulness must have taken a fearful toll. She's probably hallucinating that Pa McGuigan is crawling out of a giant bottle of Crabbie's Green Ginger Wine, dressed in a Palestinian Policeman's uniform, whilst singing I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen. I mean, I know it's a normal evening's entertainment round LoochiB's place, but I'm not sure PGC has the bottom for it.

Ahem...

Yes, I know what you mean. I'm asking, "Is it enough, is it sufficient, do we need more than this as a personal ethic?"

Giggirl, I think even Bosch would have shaken his head and put the brush down.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ultra_realistic_modern_warfare

Surely it can't be preferable to thrashing around in a tannin-induced waking nightmare, whilst 20 different versions of Danny Boy swim through your head?

There are no updates with an SE22 tag. There are two for Edulwichforum (one update from 5imon, one from Laurie) and one for EastDulwich (Laurie). People tag company and brand names all the time. How can it be an issue?

'twas just a rubbish joke, Eileen.

It's just a hashtag on Twitter. I can't see it's a big deal for Admin. The Facebook example was because someone was going to set up, to all intents and purposes, a replacement Forum - and I can see that Admin would have an issue with that, in case his sponsors and local companies etc thought it was to do with him. A hastag on Twitter just aggregates posts around a common theme. It may even drive traffic to the Forum, which is presumably good for Admin/Mark.

Local historian and author Brian Green, of Dulwich Village BUT HE'LL BE BIASED!

You're in Hawaii, 5imon?

Fuckem if they can't take a joke?? Or an offer of a hug?

Atila Reincarnate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ted Max Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > Atila, what if you are a miserable sod who > likes getting nothing better than a good punch up? > Does that mean you can treat others in the same way? ------- > Behave, you know exactly what I mean. Not everything is a personal challenge, Atila. Just pursuing a line of philospohical enquiry. Let me put it another way: what if "how you would be done by" doesn't accord with how the other person would wish to be "done to"? Is "do as you would be done by" enough of a philosophy in ethics, and does it necessarily lead to the greater common good (to stick with the utilitarian approach)?

I find myself more attracted to the explication of Kantian practical reason in Hollyoaks. But I see what you're saying.

I was considering not doing it, but as I too had the earworm I felt I must share. I think there are lots of heroes, and some of them aren't even honoured with a lapel badge from Richard & Judy and a goody bag from the Daily Mirror.

annaj, I doff my cap to your greater knowledge of Joey's utilitarian ethics. I shall add Friends to the reading list. Atila, what if you are a miserable sod who likes getting nothing better than a good punch up? Does that mean you can treat others in the same way?

RosieH outed. Utterly terrifying.

I think Ted's post speaks for itself. Karma schmarma - be nice to people because you can and it's the right thing to do. Thanks for the defence, RosieH. Of course, true altruism as you describe it is often seen as desirable - but is it achievable? For instance there are those who think that even acts of kindness that appear selfless may in fact be done because they make the person doing them feel good about themselves. But does that matter? A philisophy of enlightened self interest (to use a less paradoxical and more common term!) can often lead to an increase in overall happiness, as well as a payback for the good doer. It has particular relevance in business today - what is CSR if not enlightened self-interest? Is it better that companies act greener, more socially responsibly? Yes. Does it matter that they do so because, to use the hackneyed phrase, they hope to do well by doing good? I'm not so sure. Iain's "pay up the karma insurance its good for us all and makes Dulwich a nice place!!" is as good an expression of enlightened self interest as any I have seen. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. In fact it may be that it is the least harmful and most achievable balance between egotism and altruism. I hope all the cats related to this thread are OK.

If self-interested altruism drives up the total sum of happiness, does it matter that good is done only in expectation of reward? Essays in by Friday, please, the reading list will be in your pigeonholes as you leave.

Why couldn't Snorky write like that on here? pffft, etc

Top work from the captain's Table, there.

Ymenik/ Sam Here is a link with the information and numbers you need. As well-meaning as people are on here, I think you need to talk to a professional. I quote "they will keep your personal details private if requested." http://www.southwark.gov.uk/YourServices/childrenandfamilies/safeguardingchildren/keepingchildrensafe_parents.html

The Coventry Carol's wistful yearning for spiritual renewal would be the ideal foot-stomper as you march past Iceland.