Mick Mac

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So is 4 points like a 'mini maxxi' or perhaps a > 'mick'? No Declan. It's not.

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...or a Mick Mack minus (wasn't he a wrestler?) :)

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick is just suffering the understandable rage > that surfaces when one realises one's score is > less than one would get by doing a maxxi. Egg sactly

I think I commented. He said he could offer what no other man could. That's a big statement to make.

Indiepanda. That's pretty much spot on but whilst companies want to save tax, the loss of revenue as a result of consumer action hits them harder than any tax saving. Hence where governments fail consumers can make a major impact.

Myhomeservices Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm offering wat nobody else can Can you prove that?

The bonus for correct scores is all wrong. I had more correct results than AM. He knows nothing about football. Travesty.

Putting an acceptable value on the IP being charged is the key. This allowable element is within the control of the UK trasnfer pricing authorities (to some extent). Obviously transfer pricing came in to prevent inter group abuses, but in this case the IP is the issue, not moving profits around. Its a valuation issue. IP is potentially the biggest TP abuse currently happening. Whilst all of this is within the law, valuation abuses are rife and should be the focus of HMRC attention. Other jurisdictions are taking a much firmer line on tax avoidance than the UK. Of that I have no doubt. In this case Starbucks say "we have been in discussions with HMRC for some time". This means either 1) nothing ie they have ongoing dialogue, which is now the norm for big groups, who have a face to face relationship with HMRC, or 2) they have been under pressure on this issue already. Hopefully its the latter - but either way I think people should vote with their feet. Consumer action hits companies reputationally and affects their behaviour, I expect already they will be adapting their TP policy. No CT is not acceptable, irrespective of employment taxes, VAT etc. Thye won't leave the UK, they just need to pay a fair price for the ability to make money here.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You don't have to agree with everything James B > says or does (I know I don't), but some of the > abuse dished out to him on here is completely out > of order. Jeremy. I have not seen any abuse. However the responses are evidence of peoples annoyance that James has once again tried to lead people down his preferred path. He should present the application and allow a debate to develop. Instead we see the first page of what should have been a healthy debate, being instead focussed on him. Perhaps he likes the attention. We miss the opoortunity to see what the people of ED think of the planning application (before their views are influenced).

You are making a lot of generalist comments Woodrot. None of which suggest you know more than joe public about IP. The OP was whether peoples buying habits would be affected by Starbucks being in the news, or if someone could explain to me how to put a seemingly large value on IP in coffee making, whihc can be invoiced around the world from a low tax jurisdiction.

Relating it to turnover can't be justified under TP rules. Is there an IP expert out there?

As I asked originally. How much IP is there in a cup of coffee. Music, movies I understand. Coffee I don't. There are loads of IP lawyers in ED, please explain.

The sporting duels.... The Rumble in the Jungle The thrilla in Manilla The Duel in the Sun....

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FA Cup Final day. Good call Dec. In 1977 the morning viewing started with Tommy Doherty getting out of his hotel bed in his boxers. Still remember it.

How do we feel about Starbucks paying little or no corporate tax. 1) Would it affect your consumer behaviour. 2) From a more technical perspective, how much intellectual property is there in a cup of coffee. It seems the profits in the UK are being reduced by a fee from a low tax jurisdiction billing the UK profit centre for the IP. Hence the UK profit is reduced by the inter group fee being paid from UK to Luxembourg. This and other measures reduce the UK taxable profit to a very low level. How much intellectual property is there in a cup of coffee?

GMac wins in the US tonight. Only backed him halfway through the third round at evens. But great frontrunning performance from GMac. 4240

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For the Hipsters among us (Mick?) surely Peckham > is where you wanna be nowadays, in 5 years time > everyone in North East Dulwich will be trying to > say they are in Peckham... Yes - very hip. hop. me.

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On my first Lucky 7's night I played some "cool" > tunes and it was a bit meh. Then I stuck on "I > want to break free" by Queen and the place went > nuts. There's a real beauty in that. Sorry MrB, cant stand that song.....

???? Wrote: > > er, RD did you forget to add Tuesday's scores in > your round up or were they done earlier? > Auditors - only their mothers could love them.

When I moved to East Dulwich my friends tried to tell me I lived in Peckham, just to wind me up. Now someone (Burbage) is trying to tell me I live in Dulwich instead of East Dulwich. I'm just happy with East Dulwich, stop moving me around.

Burbage Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the-e-dealer Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Verbiage seems to think that zpopulations > > never change and MPs should get an easy ride. > > Not quite. I meant that the Boundary Commission > aren't the best people to ask where anywhere > happens to be, simply because their answer will > necessarily reflect their opinion (or lack of it) > at a particular moment in time, and their opinion > is not the same as my opinion, nor does it > necessarily coincide with the opinions of > cartographers, historians, Postal Czars or those > with houses to sell. To elaborate the point, they > are the arbiters of democratic expedience rather > than geographical truth, and have no monopoly on > the matter, save with respect to electoral > concerns which, with respect to the e-dealer, are > far from the only possible concerns. > > Consider this: if everyone within the current > electoral boundaries went to live in Margate, > leaving the place devoid of human inhabitants, > East Dulwich would cease to exist in the mind of > the Electoral Commission. Yet, to anyone else, the > impudent persistence of the Railway Station, the > Sorting Office and the Palm Tree Roundabout would > clearly attest to it continuing to be a place. > > Happily, given the question was what your (or, in > my case, my) opinion of where the East Dulwich > boundaries are (or by implication, should be), the > question of whether the Boundary Commission is or > is not an infallible bureacratic ornament becomes > entirely irrelevant. > > Given the level of interest in the issue, I have > sacrificed a portion of my afternoon in pursuit of > enlightenment and am now in the happy position of > being able to publish the results here for the > benefit of all. I trust no further clarification > will be required. Looks like I don't live in east dulwich anymore on the basis of this analysis. Seeing as I am just south of the junction of Goodrich and Friern I find that a bit surprising.

redjam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nice to see Fellbrigg Road getting a namecheck It's a bit rough if you ask me.

Don't pay fees. If sums are small call HMRC helpline as regards help with the form.

What lanelover said... A good pub. Most pubs are suffering a bit in the current downturn, so wont always be busy I'm afraid, hence the atmosphere may be a bit lacking in all pubs from time to time. Hardly worth a thread on its own.

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