Mick Mac

thats what i feel too jah. The alternative view is that the sun just reacts rather than influences.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What *Bob* said. And, don't ever underestimate the > influence it can wield with it's views and > political slant/bias. Surely jah, bob was saying the opposite: it does not wield inflence on the election but just switches to what it perceives to be the winning party. I think it has significant influence even outside its own readership.

Also i think its naive to underate the influence of the sun in britain. Unfortunate as that may be.

that was my question mp. Noone i know reads it but does it inflence opinion outside of its readership. As for 1992 i felt at the time the public were with labour. I went to a labour fundraiser event at the town and country club a few days before the election and ben elton and his crew could not help calling it a celebration. And as for that disaster in Sheffield i dont think the public were ready for that type of us style campaigning. After the election much clever hindsight was applied and those clever people said the polling was outdated etc but im sure the feeling at the time was that most people felt a labour win was on the cards. You have made of doubt it however and Id like to check back to see the bookies odds on the day before the election to see what that says about who was likely to win. I for one was devastated when the tories won and i think the ease of the 1997 victory showed the tories should not have been voted in in 92. Lots of people must have regretted voting tory and changed for 1997.

my wife sells some of her better quality dresses on ebay for about 5 pound. It might not seem worth it for that money but she seems to have fun playing on ebay. Someone gets to have the dress for a fraction of the original price. Some might say thats a different form of charity.

i did think that too bob. But tony blair and alastair campbell saw it as a priority to win over the sun in order to win the 1997 election after the sun was seen as having had played a big role in the previous election outcome. In that election the opinion poles were with labour but the sun was with the tories so its not always about feeling how the wind blows sometimes they feel they can play a big part in the outcome.

The Sun has publically changed its allegiance. If most people dont read it does that mean we are not influenced by it or does it somehow get its message across to us all and influence us all? Who can forget the Neil Kinnock lights out headline which was influential in him losing the election.

you mean the october drinks tomorrow mp?

you cant begin to believe how much that hurts quids.

another injury for michael owen i guess shows why its ok to have signed him as back up but no club can afford to depend on him being there every week. Def feel for the guy as he had just moved back into capello's radar.

intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Using the menu the scanning process just wouldn't > commence. Don't know why ,it just sat there for 10 > mins with 0% completed. Its because you are in texas at the moment. If you were in the uk it would probably work.

thanks pgc - it was bbw i wanted to argue with so when his minder got involved i sidesteped the technical arguement.

technology is all magic to me bob. Never understood any of it.

Think thats called the gordon principle now. Am i right in saying churchlll won the war and still lost the election - so i guess in times of recession / hardship there is little chance of winning an election. People when hard up vote for change.

I think Ants, that a lot of pubs profess to be rugby pubs, but they just mean England internationals. Try Phil in the Prince Albert http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,293806,294222#msg-294222 He's a rugby man so put him to the test and see if you see the club rugby there.

On watching another episode of the BBC's "The Love of Money" tonight it seems clear that Gordon Brown and Alastair Darling were ahead of the game in recapitalising the UK banks in September 2008. Hank Paulson and the US later reacted and performed similar bank saving measures, but the UK lead the way and saved the world. Will Gordon be rewarded for saving the world?

Who is this "Quids" guy, that everyone respects so much?

I have internet on my mobile phone - leccy free.

bigbadwolf Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No problems up on the hill. No TV = No problem, BBW. Do you have leccy on the hill?

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pinheads an in-joke Mick Mac,,,,keep up fella, I > thought you were in the inner circle now Fair enough - but I prefer not to call someone "pinhead", even in jest.

sounds good keef. Quids and i will be there with tommy tipee mugs.

Don't worry Jah, its not the Evian variety - they are serving it in a White and Mackay jug, next to a row of large whiskeys.

The CPT will this Friday night be serving - Water - and for this reason I am out. I don't like it.

much to everyones relief.

well i dont bet odds on quids. Some lucky people got ante post odds on sts so good luck. I on the other hand, wish to keep recent winnings, and have looked at small bets on value and will enjoy the race whatever happens. The breeders cup will be a different story when Rip beats golden balls.