Fuschia

PS I was hoping you'd pop up with advice, buggie, so thanks. It's hard to know when you are over-reacting, usually I am quite laud back about childhood illness but a blue light ambulance dash is enough to make anyone a bit jumpy.

Buggie, when we left a and e the first time, they said her chest was crackling at that point (wasn't on admission and chest xray wasn't too suspicious) so a bacterial infection could set in, hence the amocycillin. Second time round they didn't hear crackling, xrayed her again and noted the previous areaes on the xray had improved if anything, but wheeze was bad, so they treated the wheezing/low oxygen levels (or at least that''s what I think they said!!) I don't think she's had a bacterial infection, hasn't had a high temp at any point. I am going to take her in as soon as MrF gets back.It will be busier than early in the morning (I realised on a previous trip with Twin I that 7.30-8am is a really nice quiet time!) but actually, I am quite worried about her. Midwife wondered if she might be anaemic, she has been looking quite blue, even the creche commented. Just wish me luck we are not there all night, again. I can't stand it third time in a month.

She is bad at night, though TBH last few days she is coughing most of the time. We do have a cat, and probably quite a lot of dust in the bedroom, i wa splanning to hoover the bed etc this weekend.

Yes, that's Buggie (we saw her on oneof our prev trips, think that was Twin I's pneumonia!) I am not impressed with the GP, I had to make a HUGE fuss even to get her seen, the Gp just sort of shrugged. And if she can be very low in O2 without it being apparent, then the GP can't rellay tell anyway. She hasn't been dx with asthma (if she gets seen in a month and is clear of viral infections they will have more of an idea I think) It could be a one virus after another .. but has been more than a month now. MrF has bad asthma (as do most of his siblings and their children) I think I've decided to take her this evening as soon as MrF is back from the school run. It's busy there prob after school, though, but hopefully we will be home for bedtime!!! I just don't want it hanging over me, with all the other worries.

As if the transverse pregnany isn't enough to worry about! Twin II had a problem w th breathing 3 weeks ago.. had had a cold and cough , I noticed her panting very rapidly, called NHS direct who sent paramedics, nebulised her to no availa, called ambulance who took us to Kings with blue lights. After about 6h, and more nebulisers, steroids, inhalers, her o2 levels came back up so we were sent back home with antibiotics and reliever inhaler, told to see the GP. Dx was vital wheeze. Had trouble getting appt, when saw GP, GP said prob seh had a second virus (as still unwell) Very next day problem recurred, called ambulance, her O2 levels were even below first time ... back to hospital.. admitted this time as even after all the treatment her o2 levels hovered round the 85% mark. Scary thing was she was just pale, weak and coughing on the level (dr said reslly she should have clearly been in distress!) Now got preventer inhaler as well as reliever, should get appt with astham nurse at Kings in a month, told to see GP in the meantime My dilemma is, she is coughing all the time, very tired and pale, off her food. Is there any point me going to the GP? I think she needs her O2 levels monitored again. I am thinking of taking her to a and e very early tomorrow while it's quiet. I can't really risk MrF having to call an ambukance next week, if I am in hospital myself, plus she is sleeping so badly I feel awful leaving her. Am I over-reacting? Will a and e think I should have gone to the GP?

Thanks everybody. I feel much happier with various plans being worked on, help offered etc...

2 days p/w we have a nanny so it's just the other 3 days I am "missing" if I get admitted I am sure she will do more if she can, but we can hardly expect her to do it for free and we don't have a lot of spare cash as I have just started maternity leave. We weren't really planning on me ending up hospitalised for weeks!!

I am just doing a plan for the various things we'd need... I think visitors from people from the forum for ME would be something well worthwhile as I will hardly see Mr f or the chidlren, if it comes to it. :-( Am thinking: mums from school to collect and drop off child no 1. Mr f to start work late each day so he can drop twins at creche (he doesn't drive so can't do school run and 10am creche drop off) SIL, various friends, Mr F working from home if necessary, extra hours from nanny if she can on her non work days to collect twins from creche, take them home and feed them Am just doing a big tesco online order, mailed my sister and various friends who might be able to help at weekends Lot to arange!! Us mums are hard to replace!!! None of this is helped by the fact twin II is ill, been waking coughing every hour or so at night and needing me.. am going to take her back to a and e early tomorrow I think.

Is an elective CS at 38 weeks a good idea though., and it would guarantee me several days of high stress in the post natal ward. Or is better to risk admission to antenatal for a week or two, in the hope I might manage to have a successful "stabilising induction" and get home without any time in postnatal? But yes, I am trying to think positive that he will stay head down from now!!!

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Saffron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fuschia Wrote: > > My real terror is of aftercare after a CS as > > unresponsive staff is the trigger for me to > really > > meltdown. > > > > Don't worry F. If that happens, we'll organise a > crack team of Forumites to go down to the hospital > and badger any unresponsive staff into submission > and obedience! > xx Lol, at least I have my trusty netbook and dongle, so no reason to be isolated

I was in for a week before the twins were bormn and it was Ok, but I was desperate at all costs not to have to stay alone after and managed to have them, spend a few hours on the ward with MrF and come straight home. I just can't atm see a birthplan that gives me a good chance of that again!!

Thanbks for the moral support. My midwives are independent MWs, and have been in touch with the SOM at Kings to see what support I can get if hospitalised for any length of time. Problem as I understand it with a transverse bbay is if your waters go and the cord prolapses the baby can die within a few minutes.... so i can understand why hospitalisation is sensible. It's a good point about CS immediately, to minimise the hospital stay. My fear of hospitals is quite complicated. I actually seem to cope Ok s slong as I am "myself" and not in need of any care.. so I have been alright when recently an inpatient with twin II. I think if I had to stay in for 1-2 weeks prebirth, and didn't requir emuch more than monitoring, probably I would be alright (though Mr F would hardly be able to visit with me, giving the demands of childcare in my absence) My real terror is of aftercare after a CS as unresponsive staff is the trigger for me to really meltdown. So that's why I would want to avouid one if at all possible... but whether it's possible to pick the right moment to be induced and get the baby head down is quite complicated I think... also being on bloodthinners an emergency CS would possibly need to be under GA, good argument for a scheduled one. My head is reeling really.

it's not even the cs, it's possible admission to hospital for several weeks prebirth....

Not really a post with a purpose but just want to moan. ECV went OK and baby easily turned from transverse to head down, but having been transverse for most of the pg, he's likely to flip back. Have to go for a scan Sun at 38w and hospital then suggests admission to birth if baby still in an unstable lie - due to risk of serious emegerncy if my waters go and cord prolapses. I am so not ready to go into hospital for what could be weeks and likely end in CS. Not just all the juggling and the difficulty of sorting out 1 7yo and twin toddlers without MrF using up all his pat leave before we even get to the birth, but i have a phobia about hospitals anyway. It's all too much bfor me to take in. I relaly hate it when everything seems to fall apart and I don'ty have a handle on it. With twin II;s hospital admisison lastweek, I feel all over the place

At 1 she won't notice but older one will be surprised if father xmas misses her... ours tend to get new supplies of things like play do, paint I would get some elc cars etc etc....

I would have thought taxis to and fro would be cheaper than taxing, insuring and running the car...

Well, my delivery the FOLLOWING week was also late (!) and the driver said they should have noted what hapened and put me in the first slot of the hour, but there was not note. I called and got the delivery fee refunded, but then sent a long email complaining they had never called me back, and failed to make sure my next delivery wa son time. I got just an emailed apology! Not very impressive.

Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dulwichflower, if you look around the room you > might see Gary "the hadenuff lady", you seem to be > using the same computer as him. I could see that coming...

Can the little coloured sponsorboxes appearing on some pages be spread across the screen from left to right please? is filling up half my screen with them one on top of each other! Thanks

Rj: I am still bf my twin toddlers, despite being 37w pregnant! And a lot of the time it drives me mad... I expected themto stop as my milk dried up or turned to colostrum. Will need to go beyond "Don't offer, don't refuse" to "Tell them to bugger off" I think. Why do we do these things when we don't enjoy them? i don't know, a lot of being a mother is like that, isn't it? And it's not like a baby goes past being a toddler to the day you can say "Don't need milk anymore" .. not unless you are someone with a firm end date fixed in your mind, like 6m, 1y, going back to work, starting TTc no 2, getting pg with no 2, 2 yo, something like that. Most of us just have a vague idea "When they're ready" IME of 3 children, bf can be hard at first, then it gets easy, saves times, vey convenient.. then you get to toddlers, and although it is undoubtedly very handy when dealing with tantrumes, sick children etc (was a real boon in casualty the other night when my daughter was screaming in hysterical panic and exhaustion at 2am) if truth be told I think it gets hard agaain, the poor mother is overwhelmed by the demands of the toddler. Whether non bf toddlers demand so much from their mothers I don't know... the benefit for me of bf mine past toddlerhood has been that tantrums have neve rbeen too muich of a problem, but maybe I just have a high tolerance for those anyway...

Have you had a look here? http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/fussy-evening.html There is some evidence that evening breatsmilk is more concentrated than that produced earlier in the day, btw If you're assuming you have no milk, just because he wants to feed all evening, it's probably not the case at all...

I think unfortunately a toddler is a totally self- centred person and will always demand you give in to all their wants.. they don't see you at all as an autonomous person with a right to her own body. I don't have any easy answer for you, except to say that you have the right not to be picked at, pinched, tantrumed at and unlike with a newborn, for a toddler needs and wants ar enot identical! There are sure to be some good articles about this on the net, i will have a look

Suggest we try getting together! Such a shame the new leisure ctr has no softplay The Horniman is good to run around in, CP one o'c club is good (open mornings) but it is hard if they doze off in the car and you're stuck in the car for naptime.

I was quite happy with my pizza, and the pasta looked quite nice.