We always start sorting the twins by 7 unless they have had a long nap, when it might be 730 It can take up to an hour to get them ready, into bed and asleep They can't really manage anything later than that Baby can't stay awake past 7! There have been no Naps today and baby only had a short lunchtime nap so we atelier waiting now till we can do bedtime We did it at 6pm yesterday too Big one stays up till 930 sometimes at weekends If he isn't being irritating and whining He deserves a bit of time after the toddlers have been banished, I think