LegalEagle-ish

We are not talking about their neigbours - we are talking about Israel and Palestine. There have been no UN resolutions aimed at Palestine to be breached.

There are about 65 UN resolutions aimed at Israel regarding their treatment of the Palestinians - sorry if I can't remember them all, but some condemned Israels illegal settlements of Palestinian land, the huge barrier they have built on Palestinian land anexing huge chunks of it, the killing of Palestinian civillians and more I can't remember off the top of my head - all of which they continue to breach and are never brought to book over because of the power of their US paymasters. Mockney - can you pull a comprehensive list of breached UN resolutions out of your hat for me??

Some further reading for the studious among you: Israel disqualifies Arab parties Demands grow for Gaza war crimes investigation UN HUMAN RIGHTS EXPERTS DEEPLY REGRET OBSTRUCTION BY THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL OF A PLANNED MISSION UN General Assembly Report of the Working Group on the Universal Periodic Review * Israel Enjoy

I'm nervously optimistic.

What about the Soylent Green idea - not sure if that's how you spell it tho. That Charlton Heston film where they made people into food bars!

For those who want to know, here is the definition of genocide as stated in the Genocide convention: Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. The key words are 'intent to destroy, in whole or in part'. The Israelis may not publicise any intent to destroy in whole or part the Palestinians, but their actions could give a clue to their intentions. Not just bombing the shit out of them, displacement from their lands in 1947 and continued displacement and land grabbing since to both the Palestinians and neighbouring countries. They breach UN resolutions and countless international laws, but are never brought to book because their good buddies the Americans have the veto on the security council. Lets look at the acts and intent of Hamas in light of the Genocide Convention and international law. Hamas representing an occupied people, who under international law have a right to defend themselves, when they get democratically elected have their MP's kidnapped by the occupying power and condemmed as being 'anti-democratic' - hmmn can't quite work that one out - have their democratically elected government undermined by a seige and blovking of their borders by the occupying power and are then called genocidal for firing some rockets into the country who are occupying and systematically wiping out their people. I know who I think are the ones committing genocide here.

Scary.

Ignorance is no defence in law

I hope Obama puls the plug on the millions in aid that goes to arm the Israelis. The whole thing is only able to happen because of the support of the US, so I don't think the timing is accidental either. They seem to want to wipe out as many Palestinians as possible while they still have the chance. I pray the people responsible end up in the International Criminal Court, along with Bush and Blair. Does anyone know if the Palestinians have signed up to the ICC treaty - I can't remember - but if they have, as victims, they can bring up a case against Israeli, US or UK perpetrators, even though the perps countries may not have signed the treaty. From what I remember though, it can't help Iraq or Afghanistan because it only covers acts that are post signing. Just found the list of signatories - No Us, no Israel, and unfortunately no Palestine

If you don't want to deliberately offend people, why would you use language that you know offends people? Simple really.

I was brought up on Irish Rebel Songs and Motown.

Easy Peasy: 1) Margaret Thatcher 2) George Bush 3) Tony Blair

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wood / trees innit > > You know the way in 1984, it turns out that there > isnt really a war, but its a smokescreen to keep > everyone toeing the line and accepting vile > treatment ? This isnt too far displaced from that > scenario > > Imagine a world where the need to travel back & > forth as quickly as possible was pretty much > removed- we do it like this at the minute as we > have to fit Hols & travel in with work. Most > people at Hrow are on business, jeting off all > over the world to play their role in the gigantic > machine of capital. > > If we removed Capital from the equation, then most > speedy air travel would not be required - if we > did not have mind numbingly grim jobs to hurry > back to, then we would take a nice slow train & > actually enjoy the journey.Aircraft would be used > sparingly - why put yourself through the horror of > a flight, when a ship can get you there in comfort > & takes a week -with no work, its not like you are > in any hurry is it ? > > Its not the plane or the airport that is the > problem, its the system we choose to live in that > is the problem. You can bealt about minutae like > heathrow or ponder the staggeringly huge problem > of global warming per se, but until we see what is > at the root of all this, then we cannot resolve > anything - everytime you upgrade your phone, treat > yourself to a fat telly or buy the latest facelift > version of your car, you are feeding capitalism & > are as responsible as the bloke that lifts the > first sod at the new runway Viva la Revolucion!!!!

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That S***y does not find it offensive is > irrelevant, however Harry might be such a dope > that he does not link it in any way to racism. > After all Harry's exposure to the world before > bonding with his pal S***y could have been limited > to Childrens TV, which based on what we now know > about the Royal Family intellect is not that far > fetched. Remember this is the idiot who went to a > fancy dress party as an SS officer. > > I was once chatting to an Aussie is an open office > and he quite loudly said (as they do ;-), "we're > playing the P***'s in cricket", and whilst > everyone was shocked an Aussie girl gave him a > stunned look and told him, "you can't say that > over here " ... so it is possible for people > detached to make an innocent remark even if other > people (us in UK) associate it with 100% racism. Not that the Aussies could be described as a rascist people of course, leving aside their ethnic cleansing of aboriginies and leaving asylum seekers to die in boats a mile off shore of course.

I was one of the climate camp eco-rebels in 2007 - so I guess you coukd say I'm against it. Apart from flattening people's homes, destroying their communities and increasing the congestion, noise and pollution for the people who remain; increasing air traffic at a time of possible ecologocal tipping point to disaster, seems rather short sighted in my opinion.

I wanted to be Sally James mixed with Sousie Sous!

I remember a woman I worked with who was about 20 yrs older than me and was having an affair with a big-time gangster. She used tosay that when she is 80 and sitting in her rocking chair, she wants be able to laugh at all the stuff she'd done even if she regretted some of it, rather than sitting there miserable, regretting the things she didn't do.

I found myself singing the Grand Old Duke of York out loud yesterday while I was on my own walking my dog around the park. Didn't even have any kids with me to make me look less of a nutter. I stopped as soon as I realised what I was doing, but I'd been merrily singing away for a good 20 meters or so without realising.

Scary stuff. If she were to sell up, would she be able to have a decent retirement?

Don't schedule it for dawn tho, as I may have trouble getting up in time to see it.

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Mr. Eagle has agreed to babysit so gona drag my tired self down for a pint or two!

No Babysitter! Unless there are any offers out there!

I like them now cos they gave someone I know a job and they are a nice bunch to work with apparently!

Haha, is that better - thank you lovely Admin person!!!