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Where have I said we shouldn't protect our children? Uncleglen has already accused me of apologising for domestic abuse and now you too. It's this ridiculous hyperventilating over-reaction that is precisely what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that link is a strawman. It was a tragic accident - not a result of negligence. What is your solution? Ban bulldog? More dinner ladies? These things will still happen and attempting to remove every element of risk in a child's life is no solution. It simply creates a generation of adult-sized infants who are incapable of judging situations for themselves. Of course schools have a responsibility to protect our children but I'd rather they focussed their resources on the classroom and things like CRB checks than on excess playground supervision.

You've gouda do something about that.

Saffron - the OP said her son regularly came home with some sort of scrape. I presumed that this, allied to the further "blue bump", was the cause of her concern. There was then further anxiety expressed by the OP and other parents about "playfighting" getting too rough. I just thought I'd present the view that this isn't that serious and is just run-of-the-mill stuff that parents and schools seem to get overly concerned about to the detriement of all, including the children concerned. I don't think a single punch to the stomach or bump on the head is "serious". Goodness, if my mother had been called everytime that happened to me or my friends attendance at school would have been non-existent. My slightly off-topic posts about legal forms and meds were meant to highlight a wider risk-averse culture that is seemingly pervasive in the modern education system. It's why, for instance, school trips to places like riverbanks or farms now require vast reams of paperwork and risk assessments comparable to army manoeuvres; all of which lead to a reduction in these sorts of valuable activities. It's all part of a bigger picture/culture - it's not just about scraped knees in playgrounds.

Oh, no doubt. Nursery is the same. It only takes one parent to threaten legal action and the school goes H&S crazy. Forms, in triplicate, for bruises and bumps that often have disappeared by the time I arrive for collection. Bonkers. And don't get me started on nurseries refusing to give a spoon of calpol to a child without a prescription!

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And in no way shape or form did I condone corporal punishment or domestic abuse. I also said that wanton violence by children on other children should be stopped. But some of the previous comments seemed to be issues concerning bumps and bruises that, to me, would seem par of the course for young children at school. And I would include the schools themselves in that criticism for bothering parents every time a child bumps their head. Single incidents of a serious nature often lead to mass over-reaction where every minor injury is reported as if life-threatening and to absolve the school of responsibility.

I might break the consensus here but is this not just kids being kids? They fall down. They get up. And start again. Complete with bruises, grazes, bumps, holes in trousers etc. This is what children are meant to do - explore the world, find out that sometimes they'll get hurt and grow up with a sense of risk and danger that allows them to judge situations. Wrapping them in cotton wool does no one any favours. I'm not advocating some 1950s childhood of tough love but just not to get too concerned about "rough play". There are always some children who are more aggressive and some who are more passive - as with adults. And whilst no one should expect wanton aggression to go unquestioned, far better to let children deal with it themselves to begin with rather than for parents to rush in.

An award show presented by Jim Davidson?

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I think you might be....

I've just sold my Roy of the Rovers comic and annual collection. Thought about keeping it for the bairn but, tbh, looking back at it now.....it's utter guff. Still shipping it off was done with a heavy heart.

Nutbrook Street in SE15 (just off Adys Road) is completely lined with silver birch and jolly lovely they look too. All hail the urban tree.

Treacle-cured bacon from Flock and Herd in Peckham. Delicious.

As a fellow civil servant I'd give your OH a kick. If there is one thing the public sector is good for it's this. You don't even have to take it as annual leave, but it is taken as caring for a dependent. Easy peasy.

And obviously should become our local MP you are aware that you have no power at all over council tax. That's set by the, and the clue is in the name here, council. Which is currently a Labour-run council. How would you work with them to ensure the best for local residents?

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Amazon didn't make any money for years. Now look at it. Get the people first.

Well everyone who doesn't live in London pays the same taxes and doesn't have a tube at all. That's not a logical argument. And there are proposals to extend the Bakerloo line but the timescales are lengthy.

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And vice versa Otta. Spend on shoes and bed. If you're not in one, you're in the other. Any good British bed makers?

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RPC - not sure if it's your style but http://www.old-town.co.uk/ do, imo, marvellous British workwear of a pre-war ethos. I have some of their stuff and it's bomb proof. Hiut Denim in Wales is another great micro-maker of top quality.

I think men's shoes are much better catered for. Northampton is still the centre of Britannia's sole. Loakes Grensons Trickers Crockett and Jones Barkers Altberg hiking boots It's mostly higher end stuff that carries a premium price because few people think like you RPC and simply want cheap and disposable. It's a consumer issue as much as a manufacturing one.

I feel like I should lock this thread after that.

*deep breath* I agree with Sue on this one. It's already in a newspaper - a public domain. As long as the discussion here remains respectful there shouldn't be an issue talking about it.