diable rouge

The referendum being an advisory vote rather than a legally binding vote actually aided the Leave side, because had it been legally binding the referendum could've been anulled due to the Vote Leave campaign breaking electoral laws...

Might do depending on what the current use of the room is, and what you propose to use the two rooms for...

I heard a couple of banger like noises, but equally it could've been a Deliveroo scooter back-firing. Very anti-climatic...and very fitting.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > geez, you really just want to dig for anything to > have a go at people about don't you. Holding > people who disagree with you to higher standards. Not higher standards, the same standards. > What did you do to engage with the EU? What did 90 > percent of remain do? Also @#$%& all. Approving of the EU is in itself engaging with it. I've always been happy for us to be in the EU, I'm old enough to remember when we were called 'the poor man of Europe' before we joined, the country was on it's knees. I liked the underlying reasons why the EU had been formed after WW2. I liked that collectively we could stand up to the big hitters like the US and China. On a more personal level I partook in the Erasmus scheme, have friends who met through it, married and now live in Europe. In recent years I have embraced what FoM brought to UK citizens as well as Europeans, travelling freely round Europe with the option to work and/or live there, or in my dotage to even retire there. I engaged with the EU by the very fact I didn't bleat on about it and blame it for every problem going. > I'm glad you find it hilarious though. At least I > can bring a small amount of joy to you dark and > disastrous existence in brexit Britain. I have a very happy existence thank you very much, and I'll survive Brexit. However, some of us look at the bigger picture and my concern is for future generations who will have to pick up the tab...

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Certainly, not all > remains, but a vocal minority would prefer to take > the self-righteous high ground, rather than engage > to help make the future relationship (such as it > is) with the EU as successful as possible. Cat, did Leavers ever engage to help make our relationship with the EU as successful a possible? Like feck they did. Your lack of self=awareness is hilarious...and tiresome.

Personally I'm very excited and will be on tenterhooks all day, every free moment will be spent watching Sky's live coverage and the countdown clock, until that glorious moment at midnight Brussels time when I will be raising a glass of champagne to celebrate the closing of the transfer window...

hammerman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If it's not bad enough that UK expats > (immigrants > > really) who are being flown over from China > have > > to spend 2 weeks in quarantine, they also have > to > > do it on the Wirral... > > How patronising! I'm sure that UK expats would be > glad to be flown over to anywhere in the UK! Guess who's never been to the Wirral...

Captain Marvel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here ye go Devil, I know you're a Brendan fan > > There's no way I'm clicking on that, it always starts off with a curiosity sniff of Brendan, and before you know it, it's mainlining InfoWars...

Captain Marvel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I occasionally feel inclined to stick up for Uncle > and Leavers generally (despite not being one), and > there's little doubt that Farage is a top notch > rabble rouser, but the sight of those grinning > fools waving their little flags in the Parliament > was puke inducing Certainly quite the contrast to the singing of Auld Lang Syne to departing UK MEPs, and tonight Brussels is lit up with the colours of the Union Jack...

If it's not bad enough that UK expats (immigrants really) who are being flown over from China have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine, they also have to do it on the Wirral...

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Considering WFH tomorrow even though I wasn't > planning on it. > > I've a bad feeling there will be some looking for > trouble. I know, Friday's in Waitrose Food Hall can seem like Beirut when advocados are on special offer...

I like to randomly listen to foreign radio stations, can't beat some downtown Rio samba...

A sneaky Wed night game. Week 21 fixtures... Wednesday 29th January West Ham United v Liverpool Saturday 1st February Leicester City v Chelsea AFC Bournemouth v Aston Villa Crystal Palace v Sheffield United Liverpool v Southampton Newcastle United v Norwich City Watford v Everton West Ham United v Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester United v Wolverhampton Wanderers Sunday 2nd February Burnley v Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I go to watch Football and there are people who > sing Racist chants.. > Does that mean I should not go and watch > Football... > .. or if I do i'm as bad as them.. That all depends what your reaction is to the racist chanting. Care to tell us?...

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My Only gripe is with Brussels telling us what we > can and cannot do. This is the 'them and us' attitude that many Brexiters have, and they continually fail to see that the reality is(was) in fact 'we', because the UK has been a major player in the EU, we were contributing to the rules and laws. It was even a Brit that wrote the Article 50 process. Perhaps if the European Parliament had been based in the UK they would've thought differently, but doubtful as we see this same attitude with our own Parliament and the 'Westminster bubble'...

No worries nxjen, if you go to Control Panel and then System, it will show you Windows 10 details including the product ID number. This is a useful tutorial on the whole process and it's how I found out how to change 10's tile layout back to 7's classic look...

A good time to remind everyone what the Vote Leave campaign promised back in 2016, namely that EU citizens would be automatically granted indefinite leave to remain. This promise was signed by both Johnson and Patel. Having to apply for ''settled status'' isn't automatic, and many who have already applied have only been given ''pre-settled status'', meaning they have to re-apply when they can prove five years of residence in the UK...

Yep, it's worse if you need a new supply, then you really get to see the ''That's not my in my remit Guv'' culture...

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes indeed. But it is interesting that the > prediction of doom keep getting kicked down the > road. First it was meant to all happen as soon as > we voted to leave, then it was when article 50 was > triggered, then it was when we leave, now it's > after a transition period.... The oft quoted BoE prediction that there would be a recession straight after we voted Leave also had a caveat that never gets mentioned, namely that the prediction was based on BoE not intervening fiscally. However, after the vote they did so by dropping interest rates and increasing QE, well known remedies for helping to boost an economy. What these actions couldn't stall though was the crash of Sterling (something which the BoE also predicted) and it's only recently that someone has tried to quantify the effect of that crash. This has been picked up by the respected financial journalist Peter Foster, until recently working at the Telegraph all through the Brexit process, but recently having moved to the FT. This is his take on it. For those that don't read links, it's not good... As for other predictions of doom I don't recall any apart from the threat of No Deal and the chaos that would follow, a view the Gov's own assessments backed, something which also happened to be created by Leavers - remember ''No Deal is better than a bad deal''? No Deal and the ensuing chaos is still looming on the horizon at the end of the year. It's not a prediction, it's a fact, unless we negotiate a deal by the end of the year or extend the transition period...

City Hall is open this Friday (31st Jan) for anyone needing help/advice...

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?m keeping out of this thread as many of the > posts above are so 2016 and 2017 and 2018 and > 2019. I don't have a problem with this, the 2016 referendum is the benchmark, it therefore makes sense to look back at what was promised and how it stacks up against what we end up with...

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We can now spend that money where we need it. 'That money' brought business into the UK and therefore created jobs with subsequent taxes paid, which then could've been spent on the Police etc if the Gov of the day had been so inclined. They weren't...

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The pertinent numbers for the debate in 2016 were > those for 2014 and 2015, > which are slightly above ?350 Million. > > actualy in 2014 The Gross Contribution to The > E.U. was actually ?361 Million - Weekly > and in 2015 The Gross Contribution to The > E.U. was actually ?376Million - Weekly > > As far as the gross contribution was concerned, > Boris and the Leavers were not being in any way > dishonest or misleading. > > DulwichFox Wrong, the rebate is taken off the ?350m before it's paid, i.e. we paid ?250m up front. We never paid ?350m up front, so it was misleading to state that figure would be going to the NHS instead of the EU. The independent UK Statistics Authority described it as ?a clear misuse of official statistics?. As well as the rebate the UK also got other monies back from the EU, bringing the ?250m figure down further...

Nothing worse than posting the fixtures and then forgetting to do the midweek predictions. Europa League place at best, sounds familiar :) Week 20 points... Week 20 table...