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This is a good overview of the realities... https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1135926328568549376

mancity68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...but my life (house, cat, other half) That reminded me of this, must be a Mcr thing... :)

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But am also speaking for a large selection > of guys I know..... If you don't mind same sex group hugs, form a support group with them (also a legit excuse for a night out at the pub), before you know it you've got yourself a whole new set of friends. Job done...

No idea whether that court case will be successful or not, but in this age of post-truth politics there certainly needs to be more accountability for politicians telling outright porkies in order to win votes...

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The European Election Results seem to have proved > that if there were to be a second Referendum > the vote to leave would be much stronger. Hahahahaha!...

We shouldn't mock. One spring after a particularly wet winter, a couple of Mallards took residence in an impromptu pond by the 'big house', now if that isn't village life I don't know what is. Just needs a cricket team and a County Lines drug cartel and it's official...

When are the WTO elections?...

Overuse of exclamation marks is usually the giveaway...!

No Prime Minister is better than a bad Prime Minister...

Guess what DF, if we Brexit and set up separate trade deals we'll be subject to lots of rules/caveats/restrictions etc, especially from big hitters like the US and China who will really be able to turn the screw on li'l ol' UK, assuming we are still the UK. Welcome to the world of global trading...

Also worth noting regarding whoever the Tories elect as leader... The Cabinet Manual says that once a PM resigns ''The Sovereign will invite the person who appears most likely to be able to command the confidence of the House to serve as PM'' If that is a hard Brexiter, especially a No Deal one like Johnson, then I can think of a few Tories who won't support such a person. With such a slim majority in the HoC, it looks like what has dogged Brexit all along will also be a problem with whoever they elect, in that if you appease one side of the Brexit divide you alienate the other side. And if Johnson wins and calls an election, he's skating on thin ice, at the last election his majority was halved down to 5k, throw in a rejuvenated Lib Dem party and the Brexit party and that could disappear very quickly. More fun and games ahead people...:)

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The deal is still on the table as far as the EU is > concerned... Worth noting that as a condition of the extension the WA cannot be reopened, so hopefully when Johnson et al start spouting such nonsense, the political journos point this out. Also, by the time a new leader is elected and with the summer recess, there will be no time to get any deal or even no deal through before the extension ends. But recent history tells us this will all be ignored and we'll get weeks of hard Brexiters promising yet more undeliverable, comforting lies to the Brexit supporters. This piece written by David Allen Green just after the last GE on why May would fail stands up well...https://www.ft.com/content/a46d09b5-e2da-398f-9f04-130764b56427

The Council collected a dead fox from a neighbour's garden, not sure how they view rats though, perhaps give them a call?...

kford Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > or, more > likely, start blaming everyone but yourselves for > the mess you've got us into. The betrayal narrative started yonks ago, and that's all that Farage has dished out during this election, no policies, just the language of betrayal. Populism is easy solutions to complex problems and when they don't work it's the fault of others, that they weren't carried out properly, that they didn't 'believe' in them enough. A comforting lie is easier to sell than an uncomfortable truth. Much easier for the modern day careerist politician to carry on citing the imaginary 'will of the people' when in fact they should be telling the country the uncomfortable truth that what was promised was simply undeliverable...

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They certainly need our money Red Devil. Loads of > big fat pensions and expense accounts to be paid > for Yep, one in particular springs to mind, a certain Mr N. Farage...

100...

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Technically you are correct given the current EU > blackmail. However I think you?ll find the EU will > be begging for deals with us if we go WTO. :) Put the Brexit Koolaid down keano, you're spewing up vacuous tropes again...''they need us more than we need them''...''the Germans will give us a deal because we buy their BMWs''...''ditto the French and their wine''...''ditto the Italians and their Prosecco''....''It'll be the easiest deal in history''...

Keano has previously stated he voted for his 'idea' of Leave, and I don't think I'm wrong in saying he's not particularly enamoured with May's 'idea' of Leave, i.e her negotiated WA. Throw in all the other 'ideas' of Leave that have been mentioned pre and post referendum such as Norway, EFTA, Canada+ and so on, and it's quite clear that saying ''Leave means Leave'' means all things to all people, yet ultimately nothing at all, in essence just another vacuous soundbite...

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really hate the traitor remarks but this is > actually a really stupid story and it's a little > sad that the guy might now lose his job or get a > warning. I don't think Femi was that bothered by > the sound of it. Bothered enough to post about it. You're too soft John, regardless of which side that guy was on, it's not a good look for Kings, a warning is the minimum he should get...

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I still think the BXP polls are overestimated. I > may have to eat my words. Recent polls have shown them to have a 18-21% lead, but also a 3-5% lead, I expect the final result to be somewhere in the middle, well short of the referendum 52%...

I've decided I'm going to ignore the advice of any pro-EU tactical voting sites. Firstly the polls are all over the place, thus not convinced that any advice will be accurate enough. Also, what advice I have seen for London says that the Lib Dems and Greens have comfortably enough votes to secure seats, but in order to take a seat away from the BP, there's a better chance of doing that by voting for Change UK. Fine, but what if too many people switch to Change, isn't there a danger of undermining the so-called secure seats? Because the Remain vote is going to be split regardless, I think this vote is more to do with votes cast in total rather than actual seats gained, as people will inevitably tot up the pro and anti Brexit votes. So I'm going to stick with my initial thought that I'll vote for the Lib Dems, they have been consistently anti-Brexit, and they also have the best chance of finishing above Labour and thereby giving Corbyn and his Lexiter cabal a bloody nose. With a bit of luck May won't be the only leader getting the spanish fiddler this summer...

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hemingway Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > - they are bad/evil (sociopathic is now their > > favourite criticism of opponents) > > - Thick/stupid misled by sinister puppetmasters > > and the 'mainstream Media' Murdoch etc, etc > > No - It's just money and fame IMHO. The Alt > Right at the moment is the quickest way up the > ladder so the ambitious choose it. The people > supporting it don't believe it - they're what is > now called "Grifters" I'm not sure they don't believe in it, but they are definitely doing it for attention/money. Here's a grifter in action, nothing more than trolling/bullying, I actually feel sorry for the Brexit supporting MP who supposed to be on their side, but it looks like he's not Brexity enough...https://twitter.com/BBCWalesNews/status/1130940872445579264

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Farage is an opportunist charlatan with a complete > disregard for electoral funding law. And in spite > of never having himself been an MP, has caused > more chaos in Parliament than any politician in > living memory. A truly self serving snake oil > salesman of the worst kind. Man of the People PayPal...