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Charter ED have now updated their website and it says that the furthest distance offered for September 2020 was 761 metres. It?s not clear if that was before or after the shakedown but last year the catchment only grew by a handful of metres between offer day and September so its prob useful info whichever it is.

This is the info that Renata Hamvas posted about final distances for Charter ED in 2018 and 2019 if it?s helpful. I have spoken directly with the person who deals with admissions at Charter ED. You are all pretty much correct but for different years! In 2018 the last place offered on distance on offer day was around a km. There was a lot of movement on the waiting list that year and by the start of term it had moved to more than 1.3km. In 2019 the last place offered was at 954m from the school. There was little movement on the waiting list so the places that came up went to children who had moved into the area after 31st October 2018 and lived closer than 954 or had secured a place under other criteria eg an older sibling got a place at the school or they were a previously looked after child or under SEN. The last place offered at the start of the school year in 2019 was approximately 1km, so significantly less than 2018. Something that could inpact this year is that there could be a increase in sibling numbers as the firat intake are currently in year 9 and a 2-3 year gap between siblings is common. The situation will change again in entry for 22 or 23 as the school plans to expand by 2FE then.

I lived on East Dulwich Grove opposite the hospital for years, we moved about 6 years ago. We were also regularly woken by a cockerel crowing which is a bizarre coincidence

Thank you xx

Been down almost continuously for 2/3 days....we?re on Upland RD. Anyone else?

I can?t recommend VP removals (Peter and Lucas) highly enough. We used them today for the third time for a move. They?re incredibly hard working, competent and work comprehensively and fast. The cost was also much MUCH cheaper than our quote from one of the very well know Large removal companies for work that - having used both in the past - is superior. They?re a real find.

Sue can you tell us what time the original post was put up on the FB group? Hoping I used my card after the skimming device was removed not before and might be able to work it out from the time of the FB post

Someone else posted something similar about their son a while back, see the link I?ve attached xx /forum/read.php?29,2108302,2108302#msg-2108302

The police were indeed there to pick up takeaway burgers which were brought out to them by staff and handed to them in their van, not to dissipate the ?huge queue? of 5 or 6 people.

AylwardS Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don?t understand how people can?t recognise the > seriousness but its still happening. If you are > able to use the open spaces and see others not > using it as intended have a quiet word. Tell them > you didn?t see the sign at first / your experience > / someone you know of or are worried about. > > They may not take it well then but may think about > it later and change their behaviour. Odd as it may > seem not everyone thinks in the same way. The > ?official? advice isn?t totally clear either and > there is plenty of conflicting information. Is it > any wonder people have different interpretations? > > If you are choosing not to go out Weatherman > Walking on BBC iPlayer is taking me on virtual > walks along the Welsh Coast The advice is pretty much crystal clear. No one with two brain cells to rub together thinks the advice means it?s cool to meet pals for a 5 a side match (seen this several times) or a picnic. Or to let their dog crap all over a school playing field which is a criminal act in normal times let alone the current time. People aren?t doing that stuff because they?re confused about the guidelines. We can?t control the behaviour of others but let?s not pretend it?s all a big old misunderstanding and they haven?t understood what we?ve been asked to do to save lives.

Yup. The idea that having anxiety about people ignoring the advice and risking people?s lives is what is unhelpful in the current situation is both spectacularly irresponsible and misguided. We must adhere to the guidance. Being anxious about people ignoring it doesn?t make you a whinger.

It?s absolutely legitimate for lindylou to refer to people who are risking other people?s lives as morons. Polite, considering. I?m loving the community spirit and finding small things to celebrate about people?s empathy and generosity each day but living with 2 family members who may well not survive if they get the virus certainly sharpens the mind when considering the extraordinarily antisocial, selfish, irresponsible behaviour of people who presumably don?t feel that they?re personally at much risk and simply don?t care how many people are put at risk - of actually you know, dying - because they reaalllly want to meet a few mates for a kick about in a space that has been made available for people to get some fresh air without risking themselves or others. So no, it?s not just a crotchety, square 5% who are finding it really disappointing and worrying. It?s a serious issue.

If people have been sunbathing, gathering in groups, cycling, littering, playing football and letting their dogs crap on the fields then I can only imagine that they?ve had to think better of their offer to open the fields to the public. This pandemic seems to have sorted people neatly into 2 broad categories, ars*holes and non ars*holes.

Allison, with respect, you?re misinformed. Coughing and sneezing is not the only way to pass on the virus. If you are carrying the virus - even if you?re symptomless as a significant percentage of infected people are - and you bear down on someone panting and expelling your breath with a force that experts agree far exceeds the reach of a normal dialogue between two people speaking at a 2 metre distance - you are far likelier to pass on the virus than if you?re complying with the 2 metre guidelines. We have been asked, in no uncertain terms, to keep a minimum 2 metre distance from each other when taking our daily exercise. Jogging isn?t an exception. Nothing is an exception. We can flatten the curve and save lives only if everyone does what is asked and doesn?t consider themselves a special exception. I love to exercise, I?m used to exercising every day, I wouldn?t dream of ignoring the guidelines. Today I witnessed multiple joggers running down the pavement (and this was next to the park) without breaking their momentum, so that families had to choose between walking into the path of oncoming traffic on a main road or staying put and being 30cm away from them as they panted past. This isn?t ok. If you were out buying food and standing at the till and someone came up behind you and stood a few centimetres away and panted you wouldn?t think it was cool. Please don?t encourage people to think it?s scaremongering, that abiding by the rules is creating an atmosphere of anxiety, that the only way to get ill is to have someone cough on you directly. I?m pleading with you here, with all people who feel as you do, to take this more seriously. The 2 metre distance isn?t a magic shield as you say, but it will save lives. It?s the least we can do. I maintain that I think it?s highly unlikely that you live with several people in the high risk category - I just can?t imagine you?d have this stance if you did - but I do, my elderly mother and my youngest child who both have health conditions, and I really, really, don?t want them to become infected.

I?m afraid not Allison. I live with two members of my family who are high risk and the virus would likely kill. I don?t agree with you and I can only assume that you?re not in the same position. The rules are there to save lives, not to interpret however we wish or be chilled out about. I envy you your relaxed position but it?s woefully out of touch with many of the population. It would be fab if it was a case of ?don?t worry about what anyone else is doing, just chillax and worry about yourself? but it just isn?t. What other people are doing or failing to do will kill people, as in end their lives, they won?t be here anymore. It?s essential we listen to the guidelines.

Yup. There are joggers on this thread and another near identical thread on this forum explaining how it?s really rather tricky to traverse other people if you?re really ?in the zone? on a good old run. These same individuals, we have to assume, manage - somehow - to press the wait button at a pedestrian crossing and jog on the spot for a second rather than helplessly dart into the path of a juggernaut because they?re so lost in their own momentum that they can?t take steps to avoid being killed instantly. Essentially what these people need to do is just to take a moment to consider that the lives of people who they don?t know are as important and valid as their own. Would you sprint across a road without checking if there was a risk to your life even if it slowed down your run? No. Do other people feel the same about their own lives? Yes.

Absolutely. Every walk I go on is an elaborate ballet of zig zagging around, walking in the middle of the road where safe, crossing the road multiple times a minute if necessary. In my experience the people who appear oblivious to this and just power on as if wearing blinkers and like no one else exists while people either scatter in their path or worse, don?t notice their approach until they?re right next to them and an infection risk, are joggers. I like to exercise - I like to jog - but it hasn?t occurred to me that this means I?m not included in the rules. It?s mental.

Kid Kruger I think we?re saying the same thing. If you?re out for a walk and respecting the 2 metre rule, it?s not ok for joggers to bear down on you panting and puffing and passing you by 30cm. Some joggers have tried to justify this behaviour by explaining that if you?re a jogger and you?ve got a bit of a wind up you and are really enjoying your momentum then it?s impossible or simply too much of an ask to expect them to compromise their momentum in order to adhere to the guidelines. The ?if you?re having a really great run it?s kind of tricky to be having to factor in whether you?re invading people?s personal space yeah?? Unless you?re Usain Bolt attempting to break the 100m world record or extraordinarily mal coordinated this is a complete nonsense. If you are walking and a jogger comes up behind you then it?s their responsibility to maintain a 2 metre distance from you and not be breathing down your neck.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I go out jogging in the evening after 8pm. Hardly > anybody about, eerily quiet, and the only people > you do see are either out for exercise too, or > walking their dog. The roads are empty, so if you > do see someone coming your way, it's easy enough > to just run in the road and give them a couple of > meters space. So... I think it's safe and I'm > unapologetic TBH. I don?t think you?ve read the rest of the thread. No one is suggesting that people doing what you?re doing should be apologetic. The thread is about people who aren?t following the guidelines when they?re out jogging. And they most certainly should be apologetic but more crucially, stop behaving anti socially, ignoring govt and WHO directions and putting peoples lives at risk because of a sense of entitlement. If you?re not apparently agile enough - as some people are laughably using as a justification, as if a jogger?s momentum is as unstoppable as a bullet - to swerve and distance yourself from others while out jogging then you must stay at home. It?s as simple as that. If you stay 2 metres away from others you can jog outside. If you don?t, you must stay at home.

It?s pretty farking simple. Keep a 2 metre distance. You might not be overly worried about yourself or your immediate young and healthy household / family but as you jog past someone, panting, with a 30cm gap, consider that although you reckon that you?re going to come out the other side of this fine, that person may have cancer, or respiratory disease, or live with someone who does. There?s no debate here. Keep a 2 metre distance, that means you might have to stop jogging - gasp - for 30 secs to maintain a 2 metre distance. Your need to jog interrupted is highly, highly unimportant in the current circumstances. If you can?t reconcile this, or feel your civil rights are being violated, stay on your sofa.

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't help thinking that with the way housing > stock is set out in most of ED, that being at the > doorstep, less than 2 metres apart on many streets > is perhaps not so smart... > > Maybe tweeting support would be a much better > idea. Hey, just to reassure you, ?doorstep? in this context was generally interpreted as ?outside house? rather than having to have your feet firmly planted on your doormat with no common sense or adherence to social distancing.. On our street and I imagine most other streets, we were able to share and enjoy showing our humongous appreciation and respect for the NHS workers on the coal face while still not ignoring the 2 metre guidance by simply standing outside our houses while maintaining the appropriate distance from our neighbours. Hope this Helps x

...for another time I think.

Well don?t you sound like an absolute treasure. What an asset to the local daytime community. Working from your own home sounds like the best way forward for you and, indeed, for everyone else, especially cafe staff who don?t fancy being leered at and having to entertain your drivel when you get bored of table blocking.

It?s as the crow flies yes. I believe one of the main reasons that we?re in this ludicrous secondary school situation in ED is that when Haberdashers Asks bid for the contract of the new school on the hospital site, they pledged to make their nodal point further up LL near the location of what is now Harris primary. This being highly pertinent because it?s the roads north of LL up past Barry road that are in a black hole and desperately needed provision. My understanding is that when Charter put in a rival bid they made the same pledge if they were to win the contract and having secured it immediately went back on their promise and made the nodal point their entrance, thus shafting the scores of families living in the secondary black hole and creating a catchment that hugely overlaps with Charter North. How fortunate to live on one of those roads who now get to choose which Charter tickles their fancy rather than my road where my children may well be offered a school we don?t want several km away. Appalling.