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I?m afraid not Allison. I live with two members of my family who are high risk and the virus would likely kill. I don?t agree with you and I can only assume that you?re not in the same position. The rules are there to save lives, not to interpret however we wish or be chilled out about. I envy you your relaxed position but it?s woefully out of touch with many of the population. It would be fab if it was a case of ?don?t worry about what anyone else is doing, just chillax and worry about yourself? but it just isn?t. What other people are doing or failing to do will kill people, as in end their lives, they won?t be here anymore. It?s essential we listen to the guidelines.

Yup. There are joggers on this thread and another near identical thread on this forum explaining how it?s really rather tricky to traverse other people if you?re really ?in the zone? on a good old run. These same individuals, we have to assume, manage - somehow - to press the wait button at a pedestrian crossing and jog on the spot for a second rather than helplessly dart into the path of a juggernaut because they?re so lost in their own momentum that they can?t take steps to avoid being killed instantly. Essentially what these people need to do is just to take a moment to consider that the lives of people who they don?t know are as important and valid as their own. Would you sprint across a road without checking if there was a risk to your life even if it slowed down your run? No. Do other people feel the same about their own lives? Yes.

Absolutely. Every walk I go on is an elaborate ballet of zig zagging around, walking in the middle of the road where safe, crossing the road multiple times a minute if necessary. In my experience the people who appear oblivious to this and just power on as if wearing blinkers and like no one else exists while people either scatter in their path or worse, don?t notice their approach until they?re right next to them and an infection risk, are joggers. I like to exercise - I like to jog - but it hasn?t occurred to me that this means I?m not included in the rules. It?s mental.

Kid Kruger I think we?re saying the same thing. If you?re out for a walk and respecting the 2 metre rule, it?s not ok for joggers to bear down on you panting and puffing and passing you by 30cm. Some joggers have tried to justify this behaviour by explaining that if you?re a jogger and you?ve got a bit of a wind up you and are really enjoying your momentum then it?s impossible or simply too much of an ask to expect them to compromise their momentum in order to adhere to the guidelines. The ?if you?re having a really great run it?s kind of tricky to be having to factor in whether you?re invading people?s personal space yeah?? Unless you?re Usain Bolt attempting to break the 100m world record or extraordinarily mal coordinated this is a complete nonsense. If you are walking and a jogger comes up behind you then it?s their responsibility to maintain a 2 metre distance from you and not be breathing down your neck.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I go out jogging in the evening after 8pm. Hardly > anybody about, eerily quiet, and the only people > you do see are either out for exercise too, or > walking their dog. The roads are empty, so if you > do see someone coming your way, it's easy enough > to just run in the road and give them a couple of > meters space. So... I think it's safe and I'm > unapologetic TBH. I don?t think you?ve read the rest of the thread. No one is suggesting that people doing what you?re doing should be apologetic. The thread is about people who aren?t following the guidelines when they?re out jogging. And they most certainly should be apologetic but more crucially, stop behaving anti socially, ignoring govt and WHO directions and putting peoples lives at risk because of a sense of entitlement. If you?re not apparently agile enough - as some people are laughably using as a justification, as if a jogger?s momentum is as unstoppable as a bullet - to swerve and distance yourself from others while out jogging then you must stay at home. It?s as simple as that. If you stay 2 metres away from others you can jog outside. If you don?t, you must stay at home.

It?s pretty farking simple. Keep a 2 metre distance. You might not be overly worried about yourself or your immediate young and healthy household / family but as you jog past someone, panting, with a 30cm gap, consider that although you reckon that you?re going to come out the other side of this fine, that person may have cancer, or respiratory disease, or live with someone who does. There?s no debate here. Keep a 2 metre distance, that means you might have to stop jogging - gasp - for 30 secs to maintain a 2 metre distance. Your need to jog interrupted is highly, highly unimportant in the current circumstances. If you can?t reconcile this, or feel your civil rights are being violated, stay on your sofa.

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't help thinking that with the way housing > stock is set out in most of ED, that being at the > doorstep, less than 2 metres apart on many streets > is perhaps not so smart... > > Maybe tweeting support would be a much better > idea. Hey, just to reassure you, ?doorstep? in this context was generally interpreted as ?outside house? rather than having to have your feet firmly planted on your doormat with no common sense or adherence to social distancing.. On our street and I imagine most other streets, we were able to share and enjoy showing our humongous appreciation and respect for the NHS workers on the coal face while still not ignoring the 2 metre guidance by simply standing outside our houses while maintaining the appropriate distance from our neighbours. Hope this Helps x

...for another time I think.

Well don?t you sound like an absolute treasure. What an asset to the local daytime community. Working from your own home sounds like the best way forward for you and, indeed, for everyone else, especially cafe staff who don?t fancy being leered at and having to entertain your drivel when you get bored of table blocking.

It?s as the crow flies yes. I believe one of the main reasons that we?re in this ludicrous secondary school situation in ED is that when Haberdashers Asks bid for the contract of the new school on the hospital site, they pledged to make their nodal point further up LL near the location of what is now Harris primary. This being highly pertinent because it?s the roads north of LL up past Barry road that are in a black hole and desperately needed provision. My understanding is that when Charter put in a rival bid they made the same pledge if they were to win the contract and having secured it immediately went back on their promise and made the nodal point their entrance, thus shafting the scores of families living in the secondary black hole and creating a catchment that hugely overlaps with Charter North. How fortunate to live on one of those roads who now get to choose which Charter tickles their fancy rather than my road where my children may well be offered a school we don?t want several km away. Appalling.

I hope it?s ok to post this here rather than the wanted section but I think it will get seen by more people here! My son has hundreds of match attax to swap or give away and would like to find Ross Barkley base card (Chelsea) Arsenal Duo card Samuel Umtiti base card (Barca) Marco Rues base card (Dortmund) Wissam Ben Yedder base card (Barca) And he is missing lots of ?shiny cards? He has lots and lots of normal cards and shiny cards to swap or give away. Get in touch via pm if you have a child (or adult!) who is interested! We?re on upland road Se22 Thanks!

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Thanks so much for getting us that info from the admissions office Renata, much appreciated. Thanks again

We need clarity and transparency. It?s nuts that lots of local parents are trying to decide whether to make huge decisions like pushing themselves to the financial limit to move house a few roads away and pay stamp duty that will cripple them based on hearsay, gossip and speculation. ?Well fingers crossed because my friend?s neighbour?s daughter got in from Friern Road?....?ah no but I know someone who knows someone who said their place was because they have a statement?...it?s just....madness. We all know that the data from previous years in no way guarantees what will happen in the year we apply but to not even be able to pin down info like whether the final offered distance was not much more than 950 or 1500 after the shakedown is just ludicrous. Please Renata or someone, anyone, properly help with this situation. No more ?the schools don?t publish this information? mantras, just the facts, please?? We can?t know for sure whether our kids will be offered a place even with the data but it is definitely hugely more helpful than desperately casting around for local hearsay. We?re not trying to get our children into Hogwarts here, just trying to work out if they have a realistic chance of being offered ANY local school but even that feels like pulling teeth.

Renata Could you please help us clarify? Whatever that involves? As the previous threads have mentioned this information seems impossible to clarify. We?re trying to guess on hearsay whether the final distance after the first round only increased from 954m by a few metres or to a much more significant 1500. It really is ludicrous that we?re still going round and round in circles about this information. Frustrating doesn?t cover it. Thank you

That?s interesting. I was also surprised to hear that. But having said that I know of a boy a couple of hundred metres up the road from me who got in and we?re about 1.3km away so that would suggest it?s true. Can anyone else tell us more? Xx

954m was the first round of offers and others have said that at a recent open day the head said that after the shakedown and people declining places etc, by the time term started the furthest place was about 1500m. There are currently 6 forms in a year but that is supposed to increase to 8 form entry in a couple of years. Theoretically this should extend the catchment but by then lots of sibling places will come into play so it may make little difference in actuality. Hope this helps a bit xx

There are several long threads on catchments etc on the family discussion part of the forum! There?s one one the first page of the family room at the moment but if you use the search box to search key words like charter, Harris, catchment, admissions etc then you?ll find several discussing this and similar topics xx

Hi Renata, It's actually very hard to get this information from schools and it's something that we really need to be made as easy to find out and transparent as possible. We would really like to know what furthest distance offer made is for the local secondary schools on official offer day and then how much further the catchment distance stretched during the shakedown now that term has started. The schools are very vague and unhelpful when you ring them and this is crucial info. I'm very tired of hearing that someone's friend of a friend of a friend's neighbour says their niece got in from so and so road and trying to work it out with snippets of information and hearsay when it would just be SO helpful to have the data. Could you please compile this data for us? It would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently potentially going to spend a fortune on stamp duty to move house a few roads away in time for my children's secondary school applications without even knowing the data which would tell me if this was our only option. Perhaps you would have more clout in terms of getting this information for us than it appears that we as local parents do...

....why would local people who don?t know your sister and aren?t going to her baby shower ?love? To donate wine and gifts for it? Have I missed something?

If you search the word piplings on here then several threads come up like this one xx /forum/read.php?29,1916973,2014878#msg-2014878

I would definitely go for the one your child is likeliest to end up at for reception

I would like to know this too if anyone has any info!

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