'bout now

I'm a cross between Fabio Capello and Kiefer Sutherland since you ask DM and I understand your anger, in fact I am completely on your side in this terrible, horrible debate. Manners though....

Ok I'm going to wade in. Monica has just protected what she believes,that's religion. Her stance is of someone that has faith, rightly or not. She did not deserve this. dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do the newspapers disrespect you too sweetie? And > the television stations, when they publish the > facts about Padre Pio? Bless! You should get out > more. > > The world is not flat, and evolution must blow > your mind! How do you reconcile your blind faith > in Padre Pio with the popes thoughts on the > subject (I dare you to click on Huguenot's link), > or the fact that it is one of the ten commandments > that you should not put false Gods before the > Lord? Humour is what makes us what we are, Patronising people is what makes us ugly. I'd apologise and let's get on with the worthy debate.

38. Monkshood

37. Four leaved Clover

22. Campanula

27. Cowslip

35. narcissus?

....."put it down to poetic licence after a long day and a couple of glasses of wine." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's how I got my Ex up the duff!

Only at West ham can you go 5-0 up and STILL wonder if you're going to win it!

Waynetta

I used to live in Surbiton and they were bloody everywhere, like vermin. ...stick the blue flag up your arse etc. etc.

Pint and a cheese toastie in the Mitre, good shout Brendan.

I hope not, I thought it was funny.

I agree with Huguenot, New Zealanders are renowned for their profuse and unruley pubic hair. I once had a flat mate from Christchurch who had a bikin line from her nipples to her knees. Think carefully sweetie... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oh I won't worry, I quite like Rugby.

What's gone wrong at the Hammers? Apart from bad luck, bad buyout and impending financial(again) doom. James Collins I think we sold a guy that made Upson good, a real blood and thunder centre half, not pretty (like Terry), but effective. We will not go down though, much worse around us. Honest!

Don't ever run a pub quiz, cos that's so eeeaasy! Pudding. And I want that recipe.

Thanks all for sharing your collective wisdom and experiences. I have made a plan, concocted from what I have read and using a little of my own instinct. I'll let you know how it all plays out. You're a top bunch, don't let anyone say it isn't so!

Thanks all for sharing your collective wisdom and experiences. I have made a plan, concocted from what I have read and using a little of my own instinct. I'll let you know how it all plays out. You're a top bunch, don't let anyone say it isn't so!

I used to read 2000AD myself, it was all about the future and stuff. 200AD was in latin, I don't do latin

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Thank you everyone for you're considered and kind responses. They mirror the mental roundabout that I have been on for the past couple of years. PGC you are indeed a wise bird, I had no idea about Barnardo"s counselling service, thank you so much. Giggirl, thanks for making me cry, that's exactly what I have always thought. As a father to two girls myself I cannot begin to understand how my Mum dealt with her secret for so long. Funnily I love her even more because of that. GSJ57 Again thanks, a story with a good ending doesn't go amiss. So Barnardo's here I come. However if anybody comes up with a wizaed cure-all for this dilemma, I'm all ears. Thanks Alastair

Alcock took a dive, every Owl or Hammer knows that.

Thanks to the power of a couple of pints, I am able to post this. It's a serious question but posting in the Lounge I am prepared for sensible and comic answers, so here goes. My Mother died a couple of years ago. About a year before, whilst I was going through some troubles in my now defunct marriage she took me to the pub. I told her what was going on and looked at her, she was crying. I asked her what was wrong and then she told me a secret. In 1947 my Mum and her family emigrated to New Zealand on one of those ?1 things, on arrival my Grandfather (whom I never met) decided he'd got it wrong and turned tails to go back home. My Mother decided to stay, she was seventeen and smelt some adventure (yes, even in "40's NZ). She remained there for 10 years. The reason was that she met a guy and became pregnant. This being just after the war, with abortion a dangerous and illegal thing, she had the baby, a little girl, who was subsequently adopted. It appears that my Mother stayed out of shame, not because of the great adventure she had previously led us to believe. On returning home she came to London, met my Dad and got married but carried this secret until she confessed to me and asked me never to tell anyone. the thing is I discovered I had a sister at the age of 39, I can't tell my brother or my Father, let alone her surviving sisters and brother and it weighs upon me. What would you do?

Working from home, hic. (or rather working from the Clockhouse, double hic)

Sorry SP, I always thought Richard Williams was an idiot and that article just goes to strengthen my opinion. What a load of cobblers, citing Fowler and Di Canio in the same context. As he said national pride and millions of Euros were at stake and if Henry was a "Man" he'd admit that it was an error. Henry played to the whistle, he did not score the goal with his hand. I do not know of one player in world football who would implore the ref to overturn the decision. That article is just an embittered attack on a player that Williams does not like, it's tone is sneering and smug, hardly objective. The blame for this, as I have said is higher up the chain. Yes the game should be re-played, of course it should. The French seem to want it, Ireland certainly do but it won't because FIFA will again disappear under the wads of cash that dominates every decision they make.