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These changes are fantastic news! Bizarre that people can be against them, but this is the East Dulwich Forum!

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We need to have fewer car trips in London. It?s > really simple. You?re either pro low traffic > stuff. Or you?re pro more car congestion. Well said. I heard a stat the other day that 1 in 7 car journeys in London is under 1km - this isn't sustainable. Making the car the least convenient option and at the same time creating safer spaces for people to walk and cycle is essential.

dulwichfolk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Might be issues with refuse trucks with any > closures in the middle of the road. Might be an issue with the middle of the road being a school entrance...reversing vehicles and children don't mix too well. It's a shame an 'eco' shop is objecting to this so soon. It's less than a week since the planters were installed, Week 1 is too soon to make a rational assessment on the actual impact - the 'it will kill our business' talk is fear, fear of change (totally understandable given the tough trading climate). Give it time. Anyone driving to these shops still can.

Why ?harmful?? Customers needing to drive will still be able to. People walking and cycling spend more time and money in local shops so making a road safer for both those categories could be beneficial.

Remembering that you?ve previously said you are part of One Dulwich, this post and your views are not surprising. It smacks of sour grapes. I went to the first event and it was great. Very much the opposite of the division One Dulwich refers to. Elderly people bringing chairs with them to sit for a short while and enjoy lovely music, whilst the cafe was doing a roaring trade of ice creams. slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The junction of Calton Avenue, Court Lane and > Dulwich Village was temporarily closed off under > emergency measures on the basis this would help > the fight against Covid by allowing social > distancing. > > However, an organisation has used this opportunity > to promote a series of concerts and other events > in the closed off area. I have seen a video > showing about 70 people there last weekend which, > in my opinion, is totally irresponsible and also > seems to contravenes government guidelines (if not > laws). > > Is there a department in the council responsible > for ensuring compliance with Covid regulations and > to whom we can report this anti-social behaviour? > > > > See https://www.friendsofdulwichsquare.co.uk/ for > past and future events.

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Agree signage could be better but unfortunately drivers will still ignore in the hope that can get through. They'll figure it out soon, and when Waze / Google maps update it will improve. Out of interest what's the worst time for the traffic on Ashbourne, or is it constant throughout the day? lpool Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My wife witnessed what was very nearly a serious > accident today at the Nelbourne Grove blockade. As > per many drivers, only sees road block last minute > so slams on brakes and throws into reverse, only > just missing adult with child on a cycle coming > out of Ashbourne Grove. I will be contacting the > council. I inspected all the current signage > yesterday and it is woefully inadequate and in > contravention to minimum requirements. > > Ashbourne Grove appears to have become a race > track with vehicles desperate to make up for lost > time. It is only a matter of time before their is > an accident and the risk of someone being injured > or worse. I?m not sure this was something > supporters of the scheme envisaged. If it carries > on like this then we may see Ashbourne Grove > residents blocking the end of the road to force > vehicles to go back the way they came.

slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I popped down there this afternoon on way to Post > Office around 3.30. Long queues in Dulwich > Village going North from Roundabout (and before). > Not unexpected given narrowing of road to one > Lane. Cars that would have turned right into > Calton will now go North along Dulwich Village to > Red Post Hill then right along EDG. > > Similarly cars that would gone South East along > Calton will now go along EDG then South along > Dulwich Village. > > Poorly thought out and opportunistic. Just > diverting most of the through traffic really. slarti b - you've spoken from a onedulwich perspective previously so I wonder if you can clarify how the displacement at 3.30pm would have differed under the onedulwich solution (which I believe would have operated at peak times)?

What are the specific measures onedulwich is proposing first mate? Do you have any details? Which roads? How would the traffic physically be restricted at peak times? first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Starting somewhere is convincing schools and > parents who drive their children to and from > school to start walking, cycling and using public > transport, has there been much in the way of > active campaigning within schools and between > parent groups? > > Through traffic is a slightly different matter as, > after all, we have to weigh the impact on the > economy, not to mention vulnerable groups, if we > shut down road after road. Nonetheless, One > Dulwich is proposing measures to reduce through > traffic at key times of the day. I think that is a > very useful start, better than trying to bend an > increasingly resistant majority to the will of the > Council and the vocal and dogmatic pressure groups > that are supporting it.

Removing 7000 traffic movements a day would be great! Thanks for the info slarti b - I've looked at the website but struggling to find the detailed alternative plan. Are you proposing the same permeable filters for Area A & C as OHS proposed, so Melbourne Grove / Turney & Burbage? How physically would you ban traffic in Area B at certain times only? Are you proposing all the same roads as were mentioned in OHS, Eynella, Townley Rd, Dulwich Village etc....? thanks

Thanks Abe_ do you know physically how they would ban traffic? On which roads? At what times? thanks

It's great to see support for the aims of Healthy Streets from the onedulwich group. I'm interested to know specifically how the group proposes to achieve the stated aims of 'reducing traffic volumes, improving air quality and making cycling and walking easier and safer'?