Santerme

Fascinating thread, I think.

New Nexus, it sounds like you have far too much time on your hands. Do you have any practical experience in the areas you are posting about, or is this all the result of internet information overload?

New Nexus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Santerme Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > New Nexus Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Santerme Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > I live four to five months of the year in > the > > > > US....all is well, don't worry so much! > > > > > > Patriot Act aka Enabling Act > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That comparison is fatuous and lazy thinking. > > > Some Jews in Germany in 1930?s believed that > Hitler was a joke and that he would be around for > about 6 months then kicked out. > > Then the Reichstag building burnt down ? would > anyone like to finish this story? > > Please go and check out Prescott Bush, then look > up who signed in to law the Patriot Act. Thanks I have a History degree and run a business in the USA, so I still call nonsense on the comparison.

New Nexus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Santerme Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I live four to five months of the year in the > > US....all is well, don't worry so much! > > Patriot Act aka Enabling Act > > That comparison is fatuous and lazy thinking.

I live four to five months of the year in the US....all is well, don't worry so much!

I have no idea what you just wrote, but my guess is that barristers are going to be making a killing in the Appeals Courts over the next few months.

Silly thing is they then have a legal obligation to rehouse them as they would be homeless.

I opted for both eyes to be corrected and use reading glasses for close up. Went with Optimax after having consultation with Ultralase as well. Can see a fly on a cow's bottom at 300 metres. Went for both eyes to 20/20 instead of different in each eye....I don't find needing reading glasses too onerous. I and one of my business partners went as a package and got them down by 50% on price and took their 0% offer over two years, silly not to! 8 months into it now and can say it worked for both of us really well.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > walt disney? I assumed walter mitty the daydreamer > and fantasist. Walt disney as in cartoon fantasy > then, cool. > > "Perhaps he was confused, and is a guard at > Bluewater" very likely!!! :) I have no idea why I wrote Disney....when I meant to write Mitty....sorry, a senior moment.

His use of language was pretty spot on, which makes me think he either was an American or a Brit ex pat. I have not bothered to check, but use of 'z' for 's' would be the real clincher. Walt is indeed from Walt Disney....it is generally used to out a member of the public passing themselves off as a service member, but there is a whole host of different categories now, including someone who has claimed to have tupped a Dragon. The claim to own shares was nonsense, of course. Perhaps he was confused, and is a guard at Bluewater....

Rick Channing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @Santerme, hmmm... That's real classy. But hey, I > don't have to 'prove' jack shit to anybody. > Especially to a moron like you. I bet the only > Emerald City you ever visited was in the Land od > Oz. > > @Otta, are you retarded, or what? I'm British, > like I told your bum chum Huguenot from the > outset. > > > What is this, some kind of libtard neighbourhood > watch ganging-up on the new guy? You are well past the proof stage already Rick. Never mind, plenty more forums out there.

He is what we who have served call a Walt. Hoist by his own petard on this thread. He knows how.

Shares in Xe, it is owned by a private investment company...made up of Manhattan Securities and Forte Capital Advisors, isn't it? Having worked, I hesitate to say alongside, Blackwater employees in both Iraq and Afghanistan up to 2006, we ought to be able to swap some good stories. Mostly, in Iraq they swaggered with their Gucci'd up equipment and outdrank all the other loafers in the Emerald City. By the way I also went into Kuwait day one and Iraq day one too.

Liberals marching in lockstep, such an Americanism.... Are you sure you are in the right place?

Rick Channing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this thread the far-left's echo chamber, or > what? > > You can sneer all you like. Go ask your average > Californian about how the Democrats flooded that > once great state with potential voters from Mexico > after they chased-out the GOP in the mid '90s (I > was there during the politically motivated > demographic shift). The place has gone down the > toilet ever since. The same will happen to the UK > if the government doesn't stem the tide of > immigration from the third world. > > Just sayin'. Interesting perspective, having travelled to California since the Sixties (from age 8, my godmother is American), until my last visit a year ago, I have always seen an abundance of signs in Spanish. I love this GOP idea of a Democratic influx....and I fail to see the connection to the UK.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "DRAFTING INTO THE VARIOUS ARMED SERVICES......." > > You might want to look at the US experience of > gang member recruitment in the armed forces, > needless to say this is not a 'good thing' > > http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislati > on/a/gangs.htm I am not sure why people think the army would want these people.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Depends on the mission briefing and required > outcome." > > the mission briefing when the army went in to NI > was to protect the catholic community from being > attacked. > > Mission fail Depends how long term you want to look at that situation.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think strafer is suggesting that there is a gulf > between immediate operational success and long > term political strategy success, a point I'm sure > you're well aware of despite the show of faux > naivety ;) Caught in a flippant remark.

Or a failure either. Depends on the mission briefing and required outcome.

No, the police shot a barrister a while ago.

Well, I grew up in East Dulwich in the sixties, it was working class, social housing, we lived on Pytchley Road. Went away to boarding school, I got a scholarship....apart from the sports I loathed it. Went to Tulse Hill School, started in 1972 ( I think ) 90% of the kids had no desire to be educated and the teaching staff had a miserable existence. I got A Levels, went to University and spent 23 years as an Army officer. I run businesses now in the UK and the US. The ten or twelve people I have kept in touch with from Tulse Hill all worked their socks off. My friend Martin came from a one parent family, his Dad was a full time drunk, his mother kept four kids going through school and three of them graduated university whilst she worked as a hairdresser. He owns a software house in California now (and looks after his Mum very well) I remember us clubbing together to buy a clapped out Ford Escort van in our student days, working as carpet fitters in the summer holidays with my uncle. Others who were at school, own a building co, run the logistics dept of Game, is a priest, and a microbiologist. One is a very fine artist. Oh all of them are black (if that matters) My brother came from the same background and is a Deputy Assistant Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade. He went in as a fireman almost thirty years ago, with a couple of O Levels. I guess hard work, dedication and a great degree of good luck pays off.

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why do you still beleive the rest of the police > spin? > > Duggan had no criminal record, there is no > evidence yet that the gun is his. > > The 'fact' that he fired on the police has been > shown to be total BS. Let's see if he was also > dragged out of the car and pinned down before he > was shot, as claimed by someone close to his > family. > > I told you that the police were not telling the > truth. The fact that they failed to tell the > truth caused the anger and resentment that > resulted in the family and others protesting > outside the police station. It was not a vigil, > as claimed by some, it was a protest. > > The actions by the police then sparked the worst > civil disobedience seen in this country for > decades. > > How much of the shit being printed in the media, > fed by police spin are you going to continue to > swallow? I will wait for the truth. My earnest suggestion is you do the same.

I have perfect reading comprehension. A reporter quoting an unnamed source....is not a fact, it is hearsay.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Santerme Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > StraferJack Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > I don't recall rubber bullets being all that > > > succesful in Ireland > > > > Oh yes they were > > I guess that depends how you define success. > > Dispel rioters. Tick. > Help community relations. Cross. I seem to recall community relations were always a little tense to say the least.

So the answer is that the police have not said Duggan fired first. What you have described is media hype, not fact.