I feel I have to step in here and shepherd you all in the right direction. In a good way obviously. You can?t really have a discussion about the nature/existence of God without disregarding the actual question of God and with it all the questions of religions, beliefs and ?yes there is?/?no there isn?t? prejudices that come bundled up with it. You are far more likely to come across any over arching sentience if you pursue inquiry purely into the nature of the universe that we, as sacks of information processing water, perceive. Of course you won?t actually answer any questions, or those that you think you have answered will only pose more and more questions but you will have a bloody good discussion. And just to keep things fair from now on every time Huguenot uses a word that I don?t understand I?m reporting his post.