Brendan

You forgot Jesus, Elvis and the Pope Steve. Anyway I'm off out to do some of that cringe-worthy sort of celebrating that my Irish brethren would probably call me an idiot* for. Sl?inte. *but in that delightfully quaint accented way of course.

Go ahead, they?re my favourite car insurance based band. Way better than Iggy and the Stooges.

Considering this is there scope for me to start referring to people as Milgramian?

Aussie chicks seem to know this.

You see! No bloody good will ever come from authority.

The internet has given me a voice Sean and I have chosen to use that voice to shove my dissenting opinion down the throat of anyone unfortunate enough to read it. ;-) That's equality for you.

That is just the nature of the area. Even if the overall market adjusts itself to allow more people access to home ownership ED has become somewhere people trade up to rather than start out in. Now why there hasn?t been a national housing/development strategy that allows people to purchase a home fit for their needs and stay there rather than having to enter into a continuous, profit-seeking, trade up/down ladder is another question entirely. That question has more to do with supply and demand, the historical physical layout of the cities, land ownership and regulations and the reliance of the economy on a banking sector reliant on the economy.* And less to do with Inside 72 closing down, Jo Mama B opening and people who want to live in Clapham actually knowing that ED exists. *Amongst other things and it is bloody difficult to pinpoint which bugger we should blame for pokey houses and high streets lined with estate agents.

That does appear to be a problem. What may remedy it in state schools is lessons ending at about 1:30pm and then 2 hours a day given to sporting or cultural activities. Also competitive regional and national inter-school sports leagues established with matches played during this time. Then maybe you could stop poaching our cricket players.

Yeah that?s something I only learnt about the British system recently. In the system I was educated in the private schools obviously had more poncey facilities and access to extra courses and extracurricular activates but all the schools wrote the same exams. Although I think that?s all changed now too.

Case in point regarding East Dulwich is that SE21 is now the cheaper option, excluding the village obviously. That definitely wasn?t the situation a few years ago.

Part of that argument is the question of why State Schools, which everyone pays for regardless of where their children actually go, do not compete favourably with private ones. I think an entrenched culture of privilege is as much to blame as the bad management of state education is.

?60k I meant ?60k not ?60.

Not in the current market Mick. To buy a ?300K property you will need at least ?60 deposit plus a few grand for legal fees etc. I know I?ve just tried to do it. Where a couple in their 20s-30s who earn 70 ? 80K jointly would get this unless bequeathed by mummy and daddy is anyone?s guess. And households who bring in 70 -80K are actually pretty well off compared to many. But that comes back to what I was saying earlier about ED having changed. 5 years ago it was a viable option for first time buyers but now it is only really an option for people who already have property and equity.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I thought 25 years ago that this country's > population has a (relatively) hard heart and I > think that now - Relatively? The type of views held by some people in this country when it comes to issues like social equality would make the toes curl of even the most conservative people where I come from. And I come from a population which has an international reputation for being supposedly ?right-wing?. It?s no wonder it has to be countered by self defeating concepts like socialism just to ensure that some semblance of a fair capitalist system and liberal society can exist. Good thing about discussions like this is though that these people who use the guise of conservatism to vindicate their antisocial views often exposed themselves as the amoral bigots they actually are.

I think you have to separate the two concepts of house prices nationally and the specific house price rise in ED though. The issue nationally is a major fuck up for this country where most new builds are bought by buy-to-let landlords and the average age of a first time buyer is 38. Problem is to readjust the market lots of people are going to lose a lot of money but if you don?t do anything it will have major social and economic impact. The issue with ED specifically as a market is that (for better or worse) it is a much more desirable area than it was 10 years ago and offers more than the surrounding areas do. It is only natural to expect the houses here to be higher priced when compared to neighbouring areas.

I once made chip pasties. Hot chips with cheese and gravy encased in pastry and baked. It were top.

Although perhaps appropriate considering she?s impersonating a female P.E. teacher. (I?ll let you guys figure that one out for yourselves)

I suppose one thing the conservatives have going for them is their shade. They are the only one of the major parties where it isn?t the same as a bodily fluid.

Go as a fat drunk man shouting at the telly.

At least that fucking saffa is making some runs.

The thing with Pascal?s wager is that according to most modern monotheistic religions living a life which pleases ?god? is pretty much the same the as just adhering to our established social norms, being generous, kind and law abiding. Except I suppose they expect you to attend church of some sort.

For someone with such a fervent belief in the non-existence of god Dawkins certainly makes a lot of assumptions about his/her/its nature. Anyway the last time a checked, being vocal and arrogant does not turn a biologist into a philosopher.

RosieH Wrote: > And Mr Lush, simmer down there

Yes the man knows his stuff. He recently informed me that all footballers are also Tories.

Or maybe a racket.