It's like torture..

[Louisa]

There's a whole thread in the main section about food on public transport alongside a bloody buggy blocking a cafe door! I'm livid just browsing the comments. I can't cope. Stop eating on buses or trains! It's rude, unhealthy and antisocial. Stop blocking cafes/public spaces with prams! I'm so angry!

Louisa.

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> There's a whole thread in the main section about

> food on public transport alongside a bloody buggy

> blocking a cafe door! I'm livid just browsing the

> comments. I can't cope. Stop eating on buses or

> trains! It's rude, unhealthy and antisocial. Stop

> blocking cafes/public spaces with prams! I'm so

> angry!

>

> Louisa.

Hence why the doors to the other rooms are locked

I can write a note on your behalf possibly

What would you like to say?

Be nice

[DulwichFox]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Louisa Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > There's a whole thread in the main section

> about

> > food on public transport alongside a bloody

> buggy

> > blocking a cafe door! I'm livid just browsing

> the

> > comments. I can't cope. Stop eating on buses or

> > trains! It's rude, unhealthy and antisocial.

> Stop

> > blocking cafes/public spaces with prams! I'm so

> > angry!

> >

> > Louisa.

>

> Hence why the doors to the other rooms are locked

>

> I can write a note on your behalf possibly

>

> What would you like to say?

>

> Be nice

Why don't you just give Lou your login and let her speak for herself.. ?

What could possibly go wrong.. :)

Foxy

[Seabag]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

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> > Louisa Wrote:

> >

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>

> > -----

> > > There's a whole thread in the main section

> > about

> > > food on public transport alongside a bloody

> > buggy

> > > blocking a cafe door! I'm livid just browsing

> > the

> > > comments. I can't cope. Stop eating on buses

> or

> > > trains! It's rude, unhealthy and antisocial.

> > Stop

> > > blocking cafes/public spaces with prams! I'm

> so

> > > angry!

> > >

> > > Louisa.

> >

> > Hence why the doors to the other rooms are

> locked

> >

> > I can write a note on your behalf possibly

> >

> > What would you like to say?

> >

> > Be nice

>

> Why don't you just give Lou your login and let

> her speak for herself.. ?

>

> What could possibly go wrong.. :)

>

> Foxy

Ha ha! That is a funny/dangerous idea

[Louisa]

Seabag if that is a genuine offer, I am flattered. I do get so excited about certain things. Need to calm down and live a little. As foxy knows only too well, if I posted here what I'd like to say I would probably get a little carried away and say some regrettable alcohol induced ramblings, about the woes of wealthy parents with prams in the public arena and/or a further and (possibly) more heated debate about the disgusting social habits of certain 'people' who fail to accept the social responsibilities that come with sharing space on transport. And I could go on. It's making me angry just typing this!

Louisa.

[earlydoors]

You must be permanently sloshed as your ramblings always seem alcohol induced.

[Louisa]

Not always. My ramblings are mostly genuine irks which continually bug me because the populace of ED seem incapable of adapting to the existing neighborhood and instead reinventing the entire area to suit their own ego-wealth driven ends. Not that I'm bitter, not that I'm currently sober either.

Louisa.

[earlydoors]

Keep them coming bartender.

[Grok]

Agree with you Lou.

Am fed up that so many establishments that purport to be 'child friendly' are actually unfriendly to non-kid people. Places such as Johnnies Cafe, exhibition, cafe by peckham rye common etc are ridiculous in terms of allowing so many buggies, kids, disruption, rearranging tables. Middle class parents, if you cant be arsed to cook for your kids at home, or get the au pair to do it then dont take your kids out to lunch between 12-2pm because you spoil it and clog up venues for the people that work for a living having their lunch which is needed for fuel to carry on working. Eat at another time, you have plenty of it.

Venues-not only will you lose custom but you will be reported for blocking fire escspes if thats what you do with buggies eg the allegation by sue in other thread.

Licensed venues- you will be reported for allowing kids to order and pay for food at bar for the entertainment of mummy and her drunken friends. Yes, witnessed this at exhibition.

All venues-grow a pair and stop being bullied and dictated to by these prats.

Louisa Wrote:

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> There's a whole thread in the main section about

> food on public transport alongside a bloody buggy

> blocking a cafe door! I'm livid just browsing the

> comments. I can't cope. Stop eating on buses or

> trains! It's rude, unhealthy and antisocial. Stop

> blocking cafes/public spaces with prams! I'm so

> angry!

>

> Louisa.

[Jeremy]

Louisa... don't let the lunatic troll cozy up to you...

[Grok]

BTW Sue and Jermery, dont use my name in your other little thread. I am not the poster you both are ganging up on but i so agree with him. Breastfeeding bullies that do it just to be provocative, do it at home.

Sue, re common sense and buggies blocking exits makes me lol as you dont mind blocking aisles and escape routes with chairs at your gigs if it means you sell more tickets!

[Jeremy]

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> I am not the poster you both are ganging up on

So we have two separate misogynistic loser trolls? Great.

[Grok]

Jermy, you are an utter fool. Is troll the word you use to describe people that have a different view to the one the guardian tells you to have? Troll suits you better.

If you are male, which i doubt, and you did it unnecesssrily and provocativly there would still be a problem. So your side stepping accusations are like most of your opinins-tomTIT.

[titch juicy]

I'm just loving the implication that eating on public transport is somehow a white middle class phenomenom

[Sue]

Grok Wrote:

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> Sue, re common sense and buggies blocking exits

> makes me lol as you dont mind blocking aisles and

> escape routes with chairs at your gigs if it means

> you sell more tickets!

I don't even know why I'm bothering answering you, but if you had ever been to one of our gigs you would know that we take health and safety very seriously and not only do we not block aisles and escape routes with chairs but we do not allow people to bring extra chairs into the room.

There is a legal capacity to the room and therefore a limit on how many tickets we can sell at our concerts, and we have never once gone over that limit even when we could have made a lot more money by cramming people in.

You really are a nasty little troll, aren't you?

[Grok]

You're getting muddled. Eating smelly, mess making food on public transport, including the new invention of 'crumbless' baguettes, and leaving the litter behind is a pig ignorant antisocial phenomemon. However the middle classes with their rice cakes in tupperware for baby Ruperts snackypoos is just them!

titch juicy Wrote:

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> I'm just loving the implication that eating on

> public transport is somehow a white middle class

> phenomenom

[Grok]

I have been to quite a few of your gigs Sue, at various venues, including singarounds.

Sue Wrote:

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> I don't even know why I'm bothering answering you,

> but if you had ever been to one of our gigs you

[titch juicy]

Grok Wrote:

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> You're getting muddled. Eating smelly, mess making

> food on public transport, including the new

> invention of 'crumbless' baguettes, and leaving

> the litter behind is a pig ignorant antisocial

> phenomemon. However the middle classes with their

> rice cakes in tupperware for baby Ruperts

> snackypoos is just them!

>

> titch juicy Wrote:

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> > I'm just loving the implication that eating on

> > public transport is somehow a white middle

> class

> > phenomenom

So, as long as people don't make a mess or leave litter, you're fine for them to eat on buses? Like everyone is.

And for the train services that sell you hot food, occasionally with a distinctive odour, to eat at your seat- you're OK with this too?

[Grok]

Yes and yes. The reason for the second yes is that food is only provided on lengthy train journies, not ED to LB! The

train food provider also provides adequate removal and storage of food waste, facilities to clean hands, and trains are much larger than buses where odours can dissipate faster.

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Grok Wrote:

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> > You're getting muddled. Eating smelly, mess

> making

> > food on public transport, including the new

> > invention of 'crumbless' baguettes, and leaving

> > the litter behind is a pig ignorant antisocial

> > phenomemon. However the middle classes with

> their

> > rice cakes in tupperware for baby Ruperts

> > snackypoos is just them!

> >

> > titch juicy Wrote:

> >

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>

> > -----

> > > I'm just loving the implication that eating

> on

> > > public transport is somehow a white middle

> > class

> > > phenomenom

>

> So, as long as people don't make a mess or leave

> litter, you're fine for them to eat on buses?

> Like everyone is.

>

> And for the train services that sell you hot food,

> occasionally with a distinctive odour, to eat at

> your seat- you're OK with this too?

[Sue]

Grok Wrote:

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> I have been to quite a few of your gigs Sue, at

> various venues, including singarounds.

>

So where have the aisles and escape routes ever been blocked with chairs, exactly? And when have we ever crammed people in to take more ticket money? Please give me examples.

Even at our club nights we have always turned people away as soon as the room became unsafely crowded.

We have never yet had to do that at a Singaround, which in any case (as you will know if you have been to one) are unticketed, but we would have done if the numbers got unsafely large.

I look forward to your response.

It's really worrying that somebody who posts such crap on here may be coming to our gigs :(

Our punters are generally really lovely people.

[red devil]

Sue Wrote:

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> So where have the aisles and escape routes ever been blocked with chairs, exactly? And when have we ever crammed

> people in to take more ticket money? Please give me examples

More importantly, why didn't Grok say something at the time if they're such a concerned citizen?

> It's really worrying that somebody who posts such

> crap on here may be coming to our gigs :(

I'd go further and say it's creepy, Grok wants you to know that he/she knows who you are, but you don't know who he/she is...

[Jeremy]

Yeah I was thinking the same... it's almost stalker-like. (not trying to worry you of course, Sue)

[EDOldie]

Ah, gone are the days of drinking a six pack on the bus on the way to a gig somewhere in N London. Most people are responsible eating on the bus but I remember on the 176 a lady eating a large amount of fruit and dropping the skin and pips (and anything else she didn't want) on the floor below her for some other poor so & so to clear up. Where do we draw the line? Like booze it's probably easier to ban any eating on the bus. After all a bus is not a cafe or pub.

As for the breastfeeding, what on earth is the matter with you? Surely we have moved on? If you want a return to some prudish semi Victorian imagined Utopia, move to the USA and vote Trump.

[edcam]

The Grok thing re Sue's gigs is indeed VERY creepy. Wouldn't be surprised if he/she is making it up though, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt(as long as you're not seasoning your baguettes on the bus Sue.)

[Brendan]

So I'm browsing the old edf after years at sea and the first thing I read is a thread started by louisa that is potential turning into a fight about middle class mothers bullying people with their boobies.

Feeling nostalgic.