Stabbing on Peckham Rye Lane this afternoon

[legalbeagle]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Bows and arrows?

>

> Slings?

>

> Catapults?

I've yet to see anyone successfully kill a fish, of any kind, with a sling. I've heard stories, I mean we've all heard stories, but I've never seen it. I've never met anyone who has seen it, and I've never seen documented footage of it.

[Brendan]

Well it is kinda how spear fishing works.

Anyway what is it with philosophers? If they aren?t killing cats in boxes they?re shooting fish in barrels. Didn?t one of them also do something unsavoury to a tortoise?

[legalbeagle]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Well it is kinda how spear fishing works.

>

> Anyway what is it with philosophers? If they

> aren?t killing cats in boxes they?re shooting fish

> in barrels. Didn?t one of them also do something

> unsavoury to a tortoise?

Um - isn't it the spear that kills the fish? Rather than the sling? Otherwise it would be called "sling fishing" no?

[Brendan]

Yeah but the spear is fired by a sling contraction.

You can for instance lay siege to Baghdad with catapults even though what you are actually launching from the catapults is rocks, pieces of masonry or the occasional fellow on a heroic mission who has a knack for landing in haystacks conveniently positioned on the other side of the city walls and upsetting chickens.

[legalbeagle]

> You can for instance lay siege to Baghdad with

> catapults even though what you are actually

> launching from the catapults is rocks, pieces of

> masonry or the occasional fellow on a heroic

> mission who has a knack for landing in haystacks

> conveniently positioned on the other side of the

> city walls and upsetting chickens.

I'd be very grateful if you didn't upset my chickens Brendan. They've only just started laying again after the snow.

[PeckhamRose]

I do so hope the parents and friends of the girls who were involved in this stabbing ain't looking at this thread right now. I hope they're ok.

[Easties EL]

LOL @ the tension.

[LegalEagle-ish]

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> I do so hope the parents and friends of the girls

> who were involved in this stabbing ain't looking

> at this thread right now. I hope they're ok.

They looked like they were in their 30's and well able to handle themselves when it first kicked off. Both looked about 14-15 stone or so.

[ianr]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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> From Aristotle's Prior Analytics: categorical syllogism - to be precise.

That's so C4th BC.

[HonaloochieB]

legalbeagle Wrote:

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> R&A hits the nail on the head.

>

> A=C. B=C. Therefore A=B.

>

> Or to put it another way:

>

> Fish are mortal. Men are mortal. Therefore fish

> are men.

>

> Discuss.

The Codfather?

The Codfather 11?

The Codfather 111?

These are undeniable truths, if 'twere possible to make verity tangible, then such would be inviolate.

Mind, there's always Codfellas...

[HAL9000]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> legalbeagle Wrote:

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> > Fish are mortal. Men are mortal. Therefore fish

> > are men.

> The Codfather?

Fish are mortal. Luca Brasi is mortal. Therefore "Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes."

[Ladymuck]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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> Fish are mortal. Luca Brasi is mortal. Therefore

> "Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes."

Very funny...

*marvels at the quick-wittedness of this artificial intelligence*

[HAL9000]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Very funny...

HonaloochieB made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

[Ladymuck]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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>

> HonaloochieB made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

Well, I could be pedantic and say... you could have refused had you not lacked the strength of will to resist the overpowering attraction...but, hey...good call!

[legalbeagle]

You all jest, (and tis most amusing!) but my point remains true.

Peckham has stabbings. Stabbings are bad. Therefore Peckham is bad.

I'm not suggestihg that categorical syllogisms can solve all of Peckham's issues, but it's pause for thought, no?

ps Hello HB, haven't seen you round these parts for a while! [Oh go on. that's a gift of a line to respond to.]

[titch juicy]

legalbeagle Wrote:

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> You all jest, (and tis most amusing!) but my point

> remains true.

>

> Peckham has stabbings. Stabbings are bad.

> Therefore Peckham is bad.

>

> I'm not suggestihg that categorical syllogisms can

> solve all of Peckham's issues, but it's pause for

> thought, no?

>

> ps Hello HB, haven't seen you round these parts

> for a while! gift of a line to respond to.]#

Kensington and Chelsea has stabbings. Stabbings are bad. Therefore Kensington and Chelsea is Bad.

...etc.

[Ramble66]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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> Saila Wrote:

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> -----

> > on a lighter note....

> >

> > I love this scientific approach to crime

> statistics

>

> Out of boredom and mild curiosity I ran those

> searches again via MS Live using the 'show all'

> and 'UK only' options:

>

> Search string Google Live (all) Live

> (UK only)

> > Peckham stabbing 15,800 16,300

> 6,290

> > Clapham stabbing 218,000 19,500

> 7,290

> > Brixton stabbing 23,500 41,500

> 7,130

> > Islington stabbing 14,000 29,800

> 18,200

> > Westminster stabbing 149,000 187,000

> 28,900

> > Chelsea stabbing 180,000 264,000

> 57,600

>

> The figures for Chelsea might be skewed because of

> extra news coverage of football hooliganism.

> Westminster and Chelsea also because other places

> overseas share the same name (that Live hasn't

> properly categorised, perhaps).

> Clapham looks like a search anomaly restricted to

> Google.

> As for Islington, well, it is a pretty rough area

> - but almost as bad as Brixton, Peckham and

> Clapham put together - not sure about that.

Islington is also a borough...... not just an area within a borough....

[Ramble66]

I must say I have encountered more rudeness on Lordship Lane than I ever have on Rye Lane. There is a small portion of EDers who think that manners are beyond them and that their children are more important than anyone else. Thankfully this is not everyone and is the minority. I have never seen any aggressive behavior in Peckham and any that I hear of is confined to gangs and very rarely involves Joe public. LL had it's own stabbing last year or have we forgotten that? The worse fight I have ever seen was in the Bishop a couple of years back and the only people I know who have been mugged were mugged on Camberwell Grove, considered a sought-after prestigious road. Don't get me wrong I love LL but RL doesn't deserve the bad name it gets.

Peckham is a culturally amazing place with lots on offer, Khans Bargains is one of my favourite shops with any spice you could possibly want and the Thai supermarket near Morrisons is great. Unfortunately bad things happen and can happen anywhere..... Unless any of you are planning on joining a Peckham gang I think the chances are Peckham's a safe place to explore.

[jimmy two times]

The worst fight I ever saw was actually in a pub in Highgate of all places. It was in a big rambling country style pub called the Flask which has a very chilled atmosphere and clientele. 3 Coke-fuelled complete nutters came in and created absolute total mayhem. They sliced the barman's face open with a stanley knife and were like crazed animals. It got even worse because the bar staff then came from behind the bar and a war ensued. The barman who got slashed glassed his assailant and there was blood everywhere and mass hysteria and panic with people hiding in toilets and running from the pub screaming. It just shows that these kind of things can happen absolutely anywhere, even in posh places like Highgate.

[stevebailey]

A quick search on the Met Office Crime Stats Map gives you a general Idea.

[HAL9000]

This has been bothering me so I did these searches again - properly:

Search String Google

(using double quotes) (UK only)

Peckham stabbing 562

Clapham stabbing 6

Brixton stabbing 251

Islington stabbing 320

Westminster stabbing 6

Chelsea stabbing 5

 

[Ladymuck]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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> Peckham stabbing 562

> Clapham stabbing 6

> Brixton stabbing 251

> Islington stabbing 320

> Westminster stabbing 6

> Chelsea stabbing 5

Crikey...completely different...how do we know these are accurate?

Also, excuse my stupidity HAL9000, but what do you mean when you say?

I did these searches

again - properly:

Search String Google

(using double quotes) (UK only)

Thanks x

[HAL9000]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Crikey...completely different...how do we know

> these are accurate?

I've no idea how 'accurate' they are in terms of actual stabbings but these figures seem to make more sense (whatever that means) than those posted earlier.

> Also, excuse my stupidity HAL9000, but what do you

> mean when you say?

>

> I did these searches

> again - properly:

>

> Search String Google

> (using double quotes) (UK only)

The search strings were enclosed in quotation marks (i.e. "double quotes") to limit the search to that exact phrase and Google was instructed to deliver only results from UK sources. None of the earlier searches were that precise.

[Ladymuck]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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> The search strings were enclosed in quotation

> marks (i.e. "double quotes") to limit the search

> to that exact phrase and Google was instructed to

> deliver only results from UK sources. None of the

> earlier searches were that precise.

Ah! OK. Thanks.

[intexasatthe moment]

edited to remove traces of fit of pedantry