Sue Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 hollyc Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Perhaps hide a selection of amusing but faintly> threatening items underneath the cones? xxxxxxx:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-341967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cate Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 martin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> so does this mean the organic veg guy on> northcross road who puts out cones is actually> acting outside of the law and anybody can remove> them and park there... and if he gets shirty the> old bill can be called?The florist shop also does the same thing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-341997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
missus Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Yes but to be fair to those business', they reserve those spaces only during work hours solely because they need to and not for purely whimsical, selfish purposes. The cones are gone after 6 so I don't really think it's a fair to 'have a go at them' even if it is technically illegal.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 They still have no right to do it and if they want a reserved space they can pay the council for one. I've moved cones before to park. There's nothing the cone owner can do about it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minkey Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 "Perhaps hide a selection of amusing but faintly threatening items underneath the cones?" - small gnomes masquerading as clowns. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sheds Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> No person legally can 'reserve' the public> highway. Just move them to the curb and park. If> cone owner comes out and protests tell them to do> one or you'll call the Police......sorted.That's not strictly true :- *Buy a house with a large front garden. *Knock the wall down and drive in! *Bung the Council a few hundred pounds to drop the curb and paint a white line. *Shout at anyone who dares park across your drive - even if your car's not there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 LOL 2sheds....I think it costs more than a few hundred to have the curb dropped but yes a white line means no parking. Not the same as putting cones onto the road though :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> martin Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > so does this mean the organic veg guy on> > northcross road who puts out cones is actually> > acting outside of the law and anybody can> remove> > them and park there... and if he gets shirty> the> > old bill can be called?> > Yes. he has no legal right to reserve the public> highway for his own use over others.He sells nice produce, is called Chris Pretty and I reckon is far removed from the the person the OP was complaining about inasmuch as he is providing a service/running a business and should of course be allowed 'informally' and with the good will of the community to park up and unload his van. Too many shagging personal vehicles in the burgh anyway, at least his serves a purpose.*sits back, swigging down a 7UP while awaiting a post (or posts) containing the words 'in principle' 'in theory' and 'no legal right to use the public highway for his own use over others'* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropica Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> LOL 2sheds....I think it costs more than a few> hundred to have the curb dropped but yes a white> line means no parking. Not the same as putting> cones onto the road though :)Bit of a side issue really as this thread should be about cones but, just in case anyone should take away the wrong idea about white lines in front of off-street parking; the white line is actually only advisory, it doesn't have any legal status. It is the drop kerb that makes it illegal to park in front of someone's driveway. It is illegal to park against a drop kerb wherever they exist - I wish more drivers would remember that when they park adjacent to drop kerbs at road junctions, thereby causing an obstruction for anyone using or pushing a wheelchair who wants to cross from one pavement to the next. Rant over. 2sheds is right; if you want to reserve the space in front of your house, spend approx ?1K to get a pavement crossing and drop kerb and no one can park there. I don't mind anyone putting out cones on occasion (we've all had a need at times) as long as they accept gracefully when they get moved. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 HonaloochieB Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- > He sells nice produce, is called Chris Pretty and> I reckon is far removed from the the person the OP> was complaining about inasmuch as he is providing> a service/running a business and should of course> be allowed 'informally' and with the good will of> the community to park up and unload his van. But why should he have special dispensation, from the 'community' of all people who don't own the highway either? What if every shop/ business put cones outside their premises preventing anyone else from parking somewhere they are legally allowed to park?....If he wants a private parking space he has to pay for it, just like everybody else. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 HonaloochieB Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DJKillaQueen Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > martin Wrote:> >> --------------------------------------------------> > > -----> > > so does this mean the organic veg guy on> > > northcross road who puts out cones is> actually> > > acting outside of the law and anybody can> > remove> > > them and park there... and if he gets shirty> > the> > > old bill can be called?> > > > Yes. he has no legal right to reserve the> public> > highway for his own use over others.> > He sells nice produce, is called Chris Pretty and> I reckon is far removed from the the person the OP> was complaining about inasmuch as he is providing> a service/running a business and should of course> be allowed 'informally' and with the good will of> the community to park up and unload his van. > Too many shagging personal vehicles in the burgh> anyway, at least his serves a purpose.> > *sits back, swigging down a 7UP while awaiting a> post (or posts) containing the words 'in> principle' 'in theory' and 'no legal right to use> the public highway for his own use over others'*Poor HonaloochieB - didn't take long for someone to quote that (as you already predicted). I hear what you're saying and I thoroughly agree. Providing a (valued) community service is a whole lot different from being a selfish, lazy motherfucker and putting cones outside your own house for personal use. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Every time I go into Pretty Traditional there are different staff serving .I wonder about the high turnover . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 intexasatthe moment Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Every time I go into Pretty Traditional there are> different staff serving .> I wonder about the high turnover .Perhaps they get fed up at not being able to park outside. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off the area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9 to 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued community service". Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 dennis Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally> accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off the> area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9 to> 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued> community service".Absolutely not, Mr Sainsbury would see a different side of the GF of ED.In fact they would rise up as one and ride him out of town on a rail if he so much as looked as if he was thinking about considering such raw work.Probably.But Chris Pretty is part of the gracious folk posse and can park outside his shop all he wants. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 dennis Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally> accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off the> area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9 to> 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued> community service".i agree with this - people don't run shops for the good of the community, they run them to make money for themselves Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 pk Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> dennis Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally> > accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off> the> > area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9> to> > 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued> > community service".> > i agree with this - people don't run shops for the> good of the community, they run them to make money> for themselvesThe two needn't be mutually exclusive, though but. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yeaaah, Local Businesses, F*ck em Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I never use Chris Petty's services and nor do the vast majority of local residents no doubt...so yes of course he should have a special privilege because a few people say so...that's like me saying my local newsagent should cone off the road outside his shop because he privides me with a service......he has NO automatic RIGHT to cone off the Road and I really can't understand why anyone thinks differently. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Cost of everything, value of nothing....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I never use Chris Petty's services and nor do the> vast majority of local residents no doubt...so yes> of course he should have a special privilege> because a few people say so...that's like me> saying my local newsagent should cone off the road> outside his shop because he privides me with a> service......he has NO automatic RIGHT to cone off> the Road and I really can't understand why anyone> thinks differently.I never said he had a right DJKQ, but he does it and I don't care that he does.As for the vast majority of ED residents not using his shop, I'm glad the 'No Riff Raff' sign is working. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Quids, the No Riff Raff remark wasn't a dig at your former employer, by the way. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I wanna be a Cosmonaut ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 HonaloochieB Wrote:> As for the vast majority of ED residents not using> his shop, I'm glad the 'No Riff Raff' sign is> working.What?...you mean riff raff can afford to live in ED? Damn get me an estate agent fast......;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 HonaloochieB Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I never said he had a right DJKQ, but he does it> and I don't care that he does.i agree with that:does he have a right? nodoes he do it for the community? nois it worth me getting upset about? no, i don't care Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12210-people-putting-cones-out-to-reserve-parking-spots/page/3/#findComment-342570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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