Livid....

[New Bhoy]

Just confronted two "youths" who were leaning on my front fence only to be verbally abused and threatened. Am absolutely seething....call the police and report it or not...?

[newbie09]

where, what did the say?

Inform the safer neighbourhood team.

[New Bhoy]

Goodrich road - just generally verbally abused and told to "f**k off back into my house" and who the f**k did i think I was" - they then leaned over the fence and threw our recycling bin all over the place. Extremely agressive - and absolutely no need for it. All i said was would you mind not leaning on my fence...

[Narnia]

They weren't Rangers fans by any chance?

[New Bhoy]

lol - if it had been anywhere north of the border I would have said yes probably....

Have reported to Safer Neighbourhood team. Finger crossed they will say the same sort of thing to the wrong person one day soon and get a proper hiding for it. scum.

[Narnia]

I certainly hope so.

[WickedStepmother]

OF COURSE you must notify the police. I'm not quite sure why you're posing the question.

Actually, here's a thought: What about a "shame" section on the site - it's not hard to whip out your mobile and take a quick snap of someone behaving in an anti-social way. Then post it here with the date and time. Over time it might help to give the safer neighbourhood team more information about repeat offenders, local pains-in-the-ass and patterns of behaviour.

[wjfox]

WickedStepmother Wrote:

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> Actually, here's a thought: What about a "shame"

> section on the site - it's not hard to whip out

> your mobile and take a quick snap of someone

> behaving in an anti-social way. Then post it here

> with the date and time. Over time it might help to

> give the safer neighbourhood team more information

> about repeat offenders, local pains-in-the-ass and

> patterns of behaviour.

Excellent idea.

[*Bob*]

Yes, that's a great idea.

Agressive youths are well-known for posing meekly to have their pictures taken at close range.

[ian164SE22]

lol

[*Bob*]

"Sorry mate.. you moved. Would you mind? Thanks.. back a bit.. bit more.. aaaaaand.. "

[Santerme]

Whips out mobile...oops mugged too!

[Alec John Moore]

However, from the relative safety of your own home you could record the incident as evidence of anti social behaviour. Even if they had fled the scene before you found the presence of mind to get your camera out in time to record their behaviour, offensive language etc, you could record the effects of their response to a reasonable request with regards to your property strewn recycling etc. Witnesses always help, of course, and why not record their response to the incident, too?

I'm not at all sure about a shaming section of the forum, much better to take the official route and share your experience here.

[*Bob*]

'fled the scene'?

This is just one of those things. New Bhoy, I would recommend doing what I do:

Spend he requisite amount of time imagining you have superhuman powers which, were the situation to be replayed, would allow you to squash them flat like gnats.. then remember that what goes around comes around - and that there's no real point in escalating an annoying yet comparatively trivial encounter when you are the one with the most to lose.

If they're emptying your recycling again tomorrow, then notify the authorities.

[PeckhamRose]

And then you post said photos and we see someone who we think looks like the villain and go for him.

I think that's why we have a police service. So we don't make mistakes.....

[womanofdulwich]

yes the police are so much better at this........

[Earl Aelfheah]

I ended up moving out of Camberwell because of a group of youths (who used to hang out in the (private) carpark which belonged to my block of flats) and regularly behaved in much this manner. Southwark Antisocial Behaviour Unit were absolutely useless and after a couple of years of it, we just decided to move. There is so little you can do (unless you take matters into your own hands - which I did consider at one point).

I really feel for you. It's uneccesary and unpleasant. Don't let it play on your mind, and despite what i've said, do report it.

I hope they abuse the wrong person next time and get what's coming to them.

[New Bhoy]

-- moved topic --

[awilliams123]

Hmmm..interesting, I was walking down Goodrich on my way to the little shop on Crystal Palace yesterday afternoon and ran into some 'youths' (I think it was 3 of them though) who blurted out quite a few inappropriate comments about my physique. I ignored them completely as if they were not even there and they had a few more things to say, one of them something along the lines of 'who does she think she is' and things I can't repeat on here.

I wonder if it was the same lot.

[Alec John Moore]

"'Fled the scene' is used about 4000 times a month in crime reporting round the world." This according to the business section of The Australian newspaper website: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/fled-the-scene-is-used-about-4000-times-a-month-in-crime-reporting-round-the-world/story-e6frg996-1225890454982 .

The brief article points out that in India they use the term "decamp" to describe how alleged crims remove themselves from the scene. I didn't really think about it until I read Bob's post but I reckon it is a not uncommon stylistic use of mild or light irony that probably works better in face to face conversations where body language and tone of voice are apparent. Perhaps after I've been posting for a while longer such a foible may be appreciated for what it is, a mildly ironic reference to cliched language that suggests the writer's meaning. I also realised that, in my post, I may have provided advice on how to deal with the situation. I normally try to avoid that since it tends to lead to counter advice and can end up in a ding dong between opposing advisors. My preferred approach is to share any experience and let others make their mind up. I'll try to stick to that in future.

[????]

"vanished into thin air"

[Moos]

...."leaving not a wrack behind".

Don't worry about it, Alec J. *Bob*'s just pulling your leg, happens to us all.

[*Bob*]

Two gang members fled the scene after packing 14 stolen sheep into a Mazda car. Four alleged rustlers who crammed their getaway car to the roof with stolen sheep could face stiff penalties for animal abuse. (June 1, The New Zealand Herald)

[pk]

Alec John Moore Wrote:

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> I'm not at all sure about a shaming section of the

> forum

it's a really bad idea in my opinion, if it's actually a serious suggestion

[Beej]

New Bhoy, certainly not wanting to be hugely provocative, but out of interest - why did you find them leaning on your fence so offensive? Were they damaging it, or is fence leaning reserved for family, friends, and aquaintances?