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If we would be amused, jrussell, by this thread on this other forum then why don't you post a link instead of being tiresome?


My understanding of Section 28 of the Copyright Act is that a journalist would be perfectly free to quote any of our ramblings on the forum under the umbrella of 'criticism and review'.


This allows the quoting of other work providing that...


The work has been made available to the public.

The source of the material is acknowledged.

The material quoted must be accompanied by some actual discussion or assessment (to warrant the criticism or review classification).

The amount of the material quoted is no more than is necessary for the purpose of the review.


Hence it doesn't make much difference if the forum is 'private', because the delivery of the content is such that it is publically available.


And it doesn't really matter whether or not people give 'permission' to a journalist. Ironically, if jrussel actually were a journalist and wanted to, s/he could actually quote this particular thread to show how hoity toity people get ;-)


It would probably be more embarrassing than anything we might have said in respose to such inane propositions as 'too many trees'


Conversely, those two websites half-inching content ARE in breach of copyright.


jrussell is undoubtedly guilty of appalling bad manners, and anyone who thinks that it's okay to 'experiment' on other people is sufferring from mental health problems whatever his/her flimsy justification.


For my two-penneth I think it's just another troll from a rather sad individual.

Mt Hugenot is absolutely right (and welcome back). Jrussel is just a tease (and not very bright one at that).....why on earth refer to a thread on another forum and then not say where it is so we can go and see. WIND UP OF THE WEEK I say......

Oh bother. DO we reckon JR's not sincere then?

Does this mean my observations about pasta playing an important role in establishing American-Italian Mafia based films and TV series as significant genre will not reach a wider audience?


Motherf*cker! I'm off out to find a telephone box to tear down.

There's far too much mindless vandalism to phone boxes in the area. I read this only the other day. Take care, Mr. H.


"Pleading Guilty to doing wilful damage to a telephone kiosk, CLAUD RUSSELL ALLEN, aged 69, an off-licence holder of Landcroft Road, East Dulwich, S.E., stated at Lambeth yesterday: "People kept pestering me for coppers for the telephone opposite my off-licence and I want to get the kiosk removed." Mr. D. Howells, for the G.P.O., said that at night Allen took a claw hammer into the kiosk, and, after smashing the electric bulb, tore away a hand set.


"Mr. P. Sutton, defending, said that Allen was suffering under a sense of grievance. The MAGISTRATE discharged Allen absolutely on payment of ?1 6s. 3d. damages and ?3 3s. costs." The Times, 17 Nov 1953

I never did get the point of beating up phone boxes but can't remember a time when it didn't happen.....that and urinating in them.


Yes Rosie...I seem to always mispell Hugenot...I wouldn't mind but that U key isn't near to the others so have no idea why I do it. Thinks to self 'must try harder in future'.

Sorry I haven't replied more promptly but things are very busy at the moment, what with trying to get my piece finished, and dealing with some unrest on a much bigger and busier board than this one.


The reason I can't link you to the thread I think you would be amused by is that that forum has very specific rules which disallow linking to or from other forums. The reason for this is that the moderators don't want what they call "board wars" which is something they have had problems with before.


In any case, when you read the piece (which should be out pretty soon!) you will be able to see the other places I have been posting nad check them out for yourselves.


It kind of amuses me that some of you think I'm still a "troll" and that this thread is a wind-up. I guess I did my job a bit too well! I'll enjoy seeing you backtrack when the article is published.

Dear God Jrussell stop patting yourself on the back - that's just embarrassing. I don't know whether you're a troll or not, as, to be perfectly honest none of your threads have drawn me in, so I haven't engaged with you. Your style does not appeal to me. But congratulating yourself of this ridiculous thread is cringe-worthy.

>It kind of amuses me that some of you think I'm still a "troll" and that this thread is a wind-up. I guess I did my job a >bit too well! I'll enjoy seeing you backtrack when the article is published.


Publishing something does not mean you are nor a troll...


>The reason I can't link you to the thread I think you would be amused by is that that forum has very specific rules which >disallow linking to or from other forums.


*Cough* so you follow some rules? Any reason you can't post the board name?

expat Wrote:

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> >It kind of amuses me that some of you think I'm

> still a "troll" and that this thread is a wind-up.

> I guess I did my job a >bit too well! I'll enjoy

> seeing you backtrack when the article is

> published.

>

> Publishing something does not mean you are nor a

> troll..


+1


Shall we stop feeding the troll?

It's never a good idea to reply promptly anyway - especially when people are losing interest and starting to talk amongst themselves. No, you're better-off waiting until the thread has disappeared off the bottom of the page before bumping it back up; that way you don't shoot your bolt too early and then look a bit desperate by having to do it again later. But I guess you know all this anyway.



Nice bump though (massive cringe)

I know we should not feed the troll but for the people that are interested in copyright:


http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-other/c-exception.htm


Permitted uses of copyright works

You would not normally need to seek permission if you wish to use less

than a substantial part of a copyright protected work (see below for

information on the definition of "substantial part") . Additionally

there are a number of exceptions in copyright law which allow limited

use of copyright works without the permission of the copyright owner.

These can be found in the copyright sections of the Copyright Designs

and Patents Act 1988 (as amended) (1.27Mb)


Please note that this list is not exhaustive and particular care should

be taken if you intend to rely on an exception:


Non-commercial research and private study

Criticism, review and reporting current events

Teaching in educational establishments

Not for profit public playing of recorded music

Helping visually impaired people

Time shifting


Certain exceptions require you to give sufficient acknowledgment when

making use of a copyright protected work.


It is not an infringement of the copyright in a work if you draw, take a

photograph or make a film of, buildings or sculptures or works of

artistic craftsmanship which are located in a public places or in

premises open to the public.


Copyright is not infringed in any material when it is used in legal

proceedings.


Copyright is infringed where either the whole or a substantial part of a

work is used without permission, unless the copying falls within the

scope of one of the copyright exceptions.


A substantial part is not defined in copyright law but has been

interpreted by the courts to mean a qualitatively significant part of a

work even where this is not a large part of the work. Therefore, it is

quite likely that even a small portion of the whole work will still be a

substantial part.


All the other economic rights also apply where the whole or a

substantial part is to be used, but it is worth considering whether the

use falls within the scope of any of the copyright exceptions.

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