Jump to content

Recommended Posts

IF THE driver behind you is too close, indicate leisurely to your left and pull into the left hand lane when safe to do so. Let the impatient / quicker / tosser driver get past and continue driving, humming contentedly to Fleetwood Mac, knowing you have bigger battles to fight and more important things to worry about than petty and potentially dangerous acts of traffic vigilantism.

Waynetta you are funny! I can't stand the majority of London drivers, everyone is in such a hurry and noone lets you out of a side road or says thankyou when you let them pass. I must say whenever I have had an issue with another driver it's always a man. I love to watch them in my rear view mirror, tempers boiling over as I slow down to stop them trying to overtake me, not on a motorway but on a normal road.


I still don't understand what the fuss is about with hogging the middle lane, everyone else does it, surely the slow lane is for under confident drivers doing less than the speed limit but the other two lanes you can use at your leisure not exceeding 70mph. Anyone doing over the speed limit is usually the type driving too close to the car in front putting other drivers in danger.

>IF THE driver behind you is too close, simply pull on the handbrake. This will not activate your brakelights and he will >have no warning that you are about to stop. Watch his face in your rear view mirror as his car slams into the back of you.


Especially good if it is a truck - his face is likely to be the last thing you see.

surely the slow lane is for under confident drivers doing less than the speed limit


Err NO..as someone said above READ the highway code (unless of course you are trolling). If you don't know that rule goodness knows what other rules of the road you ignore which makes you an usafe driver I'm afraid.

expat: I have no intention in reading the highway code, I found it boring studying it the first time so won't be doing it again.


I am not an unsafe driver. I never been involved in a accident, not even a minor one in all my years in driving and I know the highway code...ok all except the section on motorways! Perhaps I will google that rule now.

DJ....you cycle don't you? You can have an opinion on anything you want but an informed opinion would be good sometimes. The highway code I'm pretty sure states the speed limit on a motorway is 70 mph. If someone is doing that safely in the middle lane,what exactly is the problem?

felt-tip Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I think the problem is that middle lane hoggers

> feel quite righteous about the fact they are

> 'enforcing' the speed limit even though their

> actions make motorways more dangerous and alot

> more congested.


I don't use motorways often but usually the inside lane is too slow and the outside lane is too fast. If there is a lack of traffic I'd always choose the inside lane as it feels safer.However to accuse people in the middle lane as being 'hoggers' suggests to me that you prefer to break the speed limit in the middle lane.Maybe there is less likelihood of you being caught as there is always some idiot going faster on the outside lane.

Narnia - if the inside is too busy and too slow for you to be in it then by all means stay in the middle lane - you are after all overtaking.


It is when the inside lane is by and large empty and people in the middle lane are either driving at the same speed as the inside lane traffic (no overtaking) or there is no traffic to the left (again, no overtaking) that this middle lane hogging complaint relates to.


Whether compliance with this rule facilitates the crime of others driving at 71mph is the police's business and not the middle lane hoggers'.

A good time time to see that is when driving at night on motorways. The inside lane has little traffic but there's always someone staying in the middle lane. I even once saw a middle lane hogger on an empty motorway....I was in the inside lane and had to pull out to the outside lane to overtake him....idiots....

felt-tip Yesterday, 08:24PM :

"It is when the inside lane is by and large empty and people in the middle lane are either driving at the same speed as the inside lane traffic (no overtaking) or there is no traffic to the left (again, no overtaking) that this middle lane hogging complaint relates to. "


Exactly. We all use the middle lane at some point, but to cruise along irrespective of the speed of the left-lane is ignoring that there's a whole community of road users around you. If you're going same speed or slower than the left-lane then move aside.

No Narnia I don't agree with that (and nor does the highway code). If the nearside lane has space you use that, with the middle lane for overtaking only. If the nearside lane is extremely busy, as it might be with lorries and other vehicles limited by law to lower speeds (with small gaps between vehichles), then you stay in the middle lane until such time as reasonable space becomes available in the nearside lane. That is a totally different attitude to thinking 'sitting in the middle lane no matter what' is ok.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Per Cllr McAsh, as quoted above: “We are currently updating our Enforcement Policy and changes will allow for the issuing of civil penalties ranging from £175 to £300 for visible smoke emissions, replacing the previous reliance on criminal prosecution. " Is anyone au fait with the Clean Air Act 1993, and  particularly with the state of 'Smoke Control' law and practice generally?  I've just been looking  through some of it for the first time and, afaics, the civil penalties mentioned  were introduced into the Clean Air Act, at Schedule 1A, in May 2022.  So it seems that, in this particular,  it's a matter of the enforcement policy trailing well behind the legislation.  I'm not criticising that at all, but am curious.  
    • Here's the part of march46's linked-to Southwark News article pertaining to Southwark Council. "Southwark Council were also contacted for a response. "Councillor James McAsh, Cabinet Member for Clean Air, Streets & Waste said: “One of Southwark’s key priorities is to create a healthy environment for our residents. “To achieve this we closely monitor legislation and measures that influence air pollution – our entire borough apart from inland waterways is designated as a Smoke Control Area, and we also offer substantial provision for electric vehicles to promote alternative fuel travel options and our Streets for People strategy. “We as a council support the work of Mums for Lungs and recognise the health and environmental impacts of domestic solid fuel burning, particularly from wood-burning appliances. “We are currently updating our Enforcement Policy and changes will allow for the issuing of civil penalties ranging from £175 to £300 for visible smoke emissions, replacing the previous reliance on criminal prosecution.  “This work is being undertaken in collaboration with other London boroughs as part of the pan-London Wood Burning Project, which aims to harmonise enforcement approaches and share best practice across the capital.” ETA: And here's a post I made a few years ago, with tangential relevance.  https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/278140-early-morning-drone-flying/?do=findComment&comment=1493274  
    • The solicitor is also the Executor. Big mistake, but my Aunt was very old, and this was the Covid years and shortly after so impossible to intervene and get a couple of close relatives to do this.  She had no children so this is the nephews and nieces. He is a single practitioner, and most at his age would have long since retired - there is a question over his competence Two letters have already gone essentially complaining - batted off and 'amusingly' one put the blame on us. There are five on our side, all speaking to each other, and ideally would work as a single point of contact.  But he has said that this is not allowed - we've all given approval to act on each others behalf. There are five on her late husband's side, who have not engaged with us despite the suggestion to work as a team, There is one other, who get's the lion's share, the typicical 'friend', but we are long since challenging the will. I would like to put another complaint together that he has not used modern collective communication (I expect that he is incapable) which had seriously delayed the execution of the will.   I know many in their 80s very adept with smart phones so that is not an ageist comment. The house has deteriorated very badly, with cold, damp and a serious leak.  PM me if you want to see the dreadful condition that it is now in. I would also question why if the five of us are happy to work together why all of us need to confirm in writing.             The house was lived in until Feb 23, and has been allowed to get like this.
    • Isn’t a five yearly electricity safety certificate one of the things the landlord must give for a legal tenancy?
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...