Man stabbed to death near East Dulwich station

[41drummer]

Agree, its not going to get any better at least for the next 3-4 years as services continue to be cut. Its very sad, but this area is no different to other parts of London. It may be more "pleasant" in places but there are the same underlying problems.

More Police visibility on foot (rather than patrol cars) might also help. I rarely see any in London at all.

[Ma]

41drummer Wrote:

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> Agree, its not going to get any better at least

> for the next 3-4 years as services continue to be

> cut. Its very sad, but this area is no different

> to other parts of London. It may be more

> "pleasant" in places but there are the same

> underlying problems.

>

> More Police visibility on foot (rather than patrol

> cars) might also help. I rarely see any in London

> at all.

Drummer, wishful thinking mate about 'police on foot'; their services are CUTTING!!

[Penguin68]

Until we have any ideas what were the circumstances/ causes of this tragic event/ events (if the incident in the car park is related, which does seem likely) speculation as to some underlying 'cause' - particularly related to recent political decisions about future expenditure (none of which would have had any impact to date) seems very much out-of-place.

Dreadful things can happen anywhere, and for a multiplicity of reasons.

It is likely that people locally of similar ages to those injured/ murdered will be badly affected by these events, whether they knew the victims or not, as will parents of young people who habituate the area. They are going to need reassurance and support that this sort of incident is very unusual, not just here but anywhere.

[Narnia]

paul32A Wrote:

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> @ryedalema

>

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> Lucky escape, ryedalema. I was in an armoured

> vehicle travelling past ED station only yesterday

> morning. There but for the grace . . .

Is this meant to be funny?

[DJKillaQueen]

Any murder is awful but it is also true to say that when guns and knives are involved it's often criminal/ gang related. Gangs and the crime rackets they protect have always existed in London and London is far safer than it was 100 years ago.

Personally I find it hard to understand how anyone can extinguish someone's life so needlessly (self defense excepted of course).

Whatever the story is (sure it will emerge over the next few days) it's very tragic.

[paul32A]

Narnia - Just commenting on the ridiculous statement of ryedalema who somehow thinks that the fact he was in the area 5 or so hours before anything happened meant his kids were somehow lucky to have avoided their untimely deaths. Seemed just a tad self-important to try and feel part of the whole sorry tale.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Your of pointing out the perceived self importance on a thread about a violent death seems rather ..... self important.

[paul32A]

your pointing out of the perceived self importance on a thread about a violent death seems rather... self important.

[prdarling]

Paul, ryedalema could have been commenting that she was glad her two children hadn't viewed it. No need to be a smart arse

He is a she by the way...'ma' being a diminutive of mother. Clue's in the name

[The Minkey]

I heard from a lady who lives right by there that as well as the lad who was stabbed and died, one youth was shot and is in intensive care, and another injured. It was something to do with the 18th birthday party which was being held in the Tower Hamlets Football Club nearby. Horrific.

[JohnL]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> Your of pointing out the perceived self importance

> on a thread about a violent death seems rather

> ..... self important.

Even though not announced yet, it's probably an Operation Trident crime

Lots of renewed gang activity around here (Peckham side)

[DJKillaQueen]

It may well have just been a teenage argument that got out of hand, but sadly it seems these days, that's all it takes for some to commit murder.

[sillywoman]

edited due to common sense alert!

[jimmyay]

The usual cheap waste of life. We don't get it so much around here but in some parts of London this happens every week.

Why do young black males do this to each other? Its beyond pathetic and so so tragic. What the hell are the parents doing. They turn a blind eye to the culture their kids are falling into.

Suppose we can be right on & agree this crime is all the fault of the tory cuts though, rather than the parenting or any effort for individuals to look out for their kids or change the culture they live in. For God's sake.

[prickle]

Jimmyay, has it been confirmed that the victim is black?

[Horsebox]

@ sillywoman

You might be wise to delete your post.

Maybe Admin can step in or something?

[EDOliver]

sillywoman Wrote:

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> Just spoke to Sensibleman who thinks he may have

> seen the boys last night. He was at Sainsbury's at

> 11.30pm-ish & saw 3 youths in the Hamlets car park

> calling out aggressively to 2 others walking down

> toward ED. Does anyone know who he should

> contact?

>

> Guns and knives? Goodness, it's all a bit too

> frightening & a bit close to home.

0300 123 1212 - can I suggest he calls them asap!!!

[Pearson]

Horsebox Wrote:

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> Er, The Police?

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> And you might be wise to delete your post as well.

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Pointless deleting post if you go an quote it ;)

Just saying.

[Horsebox]

Pearson Wrote:

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> Horsebox Wrote:

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> > Er, The Police?

> >

> > And you might be wise to delete your post as

> well.

> -_________________________________________________

> _____

>

> Pointless deleting post if you go an quote it ;)

>

> Just saying.

All sorted.

Thanks, Pearson.

[sillywoman]

Horsebox Wrote:

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> @ sillywoman

>

>

>

> You might be wise to delete your post.

>

> Maybe Admin can step in or something?

Why - have I said something wrong?

Thanks UnderhillOliver, have passed on the number to him.

[Narnia]

paul32A Wrote:

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> Narnia - Just commenting on the ridiculous

> statement of ryedalema who somehow thinks that the

> fact he was in the area 5 or so hours before

> anything happened meant his kids were somehow

> lucky to have avoided their untimely deaths.

> Seemed just a tad self-important to try and feel

> part of the whole sorry tale.

I take your point apart from the fact that s/he asked what time it happened at. Where do you get your 5 hours before from?

[lindylou]

my condolences to the victims family. RIP.

[CJJ]

Does anyone know who it was that was that was stabbed?

A 14 year old boy was shot in the leg. This all happened after a fight broke out after an 18th birthday Party at the Football Club.

Horrific.

[Huggers]

sillywoman i think he meant because your partner is a potential witness to murder and you don't know who reads this forum.

[sillywoman]

Yes he kindly PM'd me to explain. How naive of me I hadn't considered it. Will post to admin.