Nando?s coming to Rye Lane, Peckham

[Louisa]

Here?s the planning application, looks as though it will be taking on the Old Mothercare unit of the Aylesham Centre (next to Jones and Higgins fascade).

Http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk:8190/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=externalDocuments&keyVal=_STHWR_DCAPR_9575940

(Sorry not sure how to link it up properly)

Louisa.

[Jules-and-Boo]

not actually a bad thing - I love Peckham and investment is welcome.

[DulwichFox]

Hi Louisa

Link here.

http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk:8190/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=externalDocuments&keyVal=_STHWR_DCAPR_9575940

Foxy

[JohnL]

I went into Costa and it was full of the overflow from Wetherspoons :) Still enjoyed sitting there watching the top of Rye Lane from the window - it's fun to watch.

Not to bad an addition - got to say the latest addition I've been to most other than pubs is Voodoo Rays (could it be the large bar that attracts me in)

[alice]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> not actually a bad thing - I love Peckham and

> investment is welcome.

Except when it blocks your view from Franks?

[Angelina]

I love Voodoo Ray pizza, can't decide on my favourite

[keano77]

Never eaten in Nando's myself and hope I never will.

My teenage daughter and her friends however love it.

Good brand moving to Peckham. I await gentifications objections.

[DovertheRoad]

Livin' the dream....

[JoeLeg]

keano77 Wrote:

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> Never eaten in Nando's myself and hope I never

> will.

>

> My teenage daughter and her friends however love

> it.

>

> Good brand moving to Peckham. I await

> gentifications objections.

Snob! 😉

I like Nando's - the food is at least (for the most part) not deep fried. Much worse places to take kids.

[JohnL]

Nice homophobia tonight from the idiots running the door st the White Horse - twats

[natty01295]

God bless you

Not everyone is homophobes,

Stop Homophobia !!!

WHY be nasty, be nice to everyone straight /gay / bi/ whatever

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3490937

Nando's Should be Really busy

And more rubbish for Peckham area

[fishbiscuits]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Nice homophobia tonight from the idiots running the door st the White Horse - twats

Complain to management (email or twitter). I'm sure they'll get it sorted out, and you should at least expect some free drinks and food too...

Back on topic, I like Nando's. Always looking for places we can eat dinner with a small kid, so will probably use it now and again. And I think it would be likely to attract a cross-section of the community (as does Costa) which can only be a good thing.

[Abe_froeman]

I guess this means Nando's have given up on the Londis site on Lordship Lane.

[Louisa]

Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> I guess this means Nando's have given up on the

> Londis site on Lordship Lane.

To be quite fair to them, Nando?s would suit Peckham fair more than ED- younger population, busier, night life crowds, students etc etc. I think it will do very well indeed down there on Rye Lane. The LL Londis site is better suited to something like a Bill?s restaurant.

Louisa.

[Abe_froeman]

I'd prefer nando's to bills and I've only had the misfortune to eat in a branch of the latter.

[DulwichFox]

There is a Nando's and a Bills at Bluewater.

I have on several occasions tried to see what people are eating.

Unfortunately there are often many people seated, but not many people actually eating.

[midivydale]

I like nandos, this is good news!

[JoeLeg]

Nando's is far more consistent than Bill's.

Bill's tries to do too much, and is not consistent. Nando's sticks to one core product - chicken plus accompaniments, and (usually) does it well.

Put another way, if you like what Nando's does you generally won't be disappointed, which is one of the pillars of success in the industry. People like it because they get what they go in for.

[Sue]

Is their chicken free range?

Just a yes or no will suffice (though sadly I think I know what the answer will be).

[JoeLeg]

Yeah, I'm not taking the bait on that...

[miga]

It's "red tractor", so probably better than most chicken shops.

[rendelharris]

miga Wrote:

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> It's "red tractor", so probably better than most

> chicken shops.

Quite possibly, but those who care about such things might like to note that Red Tractor was described by Compassion in World Farming as "the lowest standard of any quality assurance" and "guarantees food is British and legal, but little else. Allows tail-docking and teeth-grinding of pigs [without anaesthesia], zero-grazing of dairy cows, long journeys to slaughter, and cramming of chickens into sheds ? allowing them little room to express natural behaviour."

[JoeLeg]

While I believe there's still a long way to go - and I'm fortunate to be able to afford and have access to meat that I know for sure is ethically sound, I feel that Red Tractor is at least a step in the right direction.

If we can get people away from the heap and nasty stuff from Eastern Europe and Asia (where they make Red Tractor look like Soil Association), then hopefully from there we can progress to a better standard for what we produce.

Ultimately there is an imbalance between how much meat we consume and the physical amount of space we have in the UK. But stuff like Red Tractor is a good starting point. Of course it should be better, but so should a lot of things in our food chain.

[rendelharris]

I agree up to a point Joe - yes of course it's better to have meat produced in the UK under UK law than imports from countries which have little or no welfare regulation - but in my opinion marks like Red Tractor are misleading at best; I'm sure most people seeing the mark are under the impression that they're getting something with superior welfare and production standards to normal legally-produced meat, which, essentially, they're not.

[JoeLeg]

Of course you're right about the issues surrounding Red Tractor, I don't wish to suggest that it is a standard which we should be happy with. But it is at least verifiable and understandable, which too much of our meat is not, and that I think is why I'm happy that it at least exists. I view it (perhaps overly simplistically) and a desirable starting point.

The sheer volume of chicken and pork consumed in the UK is stunning; Morrisons, a vertically integrated business with its own farms, abbatoirs and butcheries, still has to import 75% of the cooked/cured pork product it sell, mostly from the Netherlnds where standards are not as good as ours. The simplest answer would be for all of us to eat less meat, but generally speaking that isn't happening.