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Cap'n Birdseye - great examples of swearwords right there! My favourite is when Geoff's wife walks in to the restaurant, hears everyone swearing and calls Cheryl, "you carwash C@@@"


Blinder - again, it's not the swearword it's the motive/intent. If he/she conceded to not swear but still felt the same would that it any better?

I recently revisited San Andreas and got as far as Las Venturas - some of the stuff Shaun Ryder comes out with as his character is.... yeah you're right. Not for kids...


As for daddy's mysterious DVDs - are you a dad with TWO stashes?

Lot's of interesting views expressed above. However, do you draw the line when it comes to rascial swear words? Is it acceptable to use them in some of situations illustrated above oregardless of ethnic group or do you need to belong in order to use words like "Paki" and "Nigger". Whilst we're there what about the way rap culture has given new life to the word "Bitch"? Free speech or censorship?

Not sure about that racial thing. 'White trash' is another one that it seems like everyone can use as an insult.


the children thing is very interesting

I told someone off the other day as he came over to the climbing frame bit of the Herne and said


'so this is the fcucking playground then?'

needless to say it was 230 on the weekend and full of kids.


And the most shocking swearing ive heard recently has been from 4 year old boys.

one told me to shut the fcucking door. it was all about his tone.

I didnt react at all but what would you have done?

should you react so they know it's bad? or just let them get over it?


I hate that 'Bitch' thing from rappers. I think that it's mostly just plain mysogny.



Finally, it's not swearing so maybe this is off topic but the word 'Gay' is still used as an insult in schools loads, and also amongst adults. I was at a 40th party the other day and it was really acceptable amonst a lot of the adults there to say 'Gay' meaning rubbish.

That's really offensive!

I was having this argument with some mates [in a pub would you believe] a couple of years ago. I'm personally very offended by 'medical' swearwords like spastic, can't say why I just am.


Our gay chum argued that 'fag' is by far the worst term for gay as it doesn't describe what they do [like shirtlifter] but refers back to the historical habit of burning them at the stake.


Of course the women objected to c;;t.


But a very eloquent chap thought long and simply said "kaffir". So offensive that even the minorities to whom it refers have not tried to reclaimit, like they have with n;gg;r, p;aki, and queer.


UC

I remember as a teenager really trying not to use c*** because all my female friends really found it horrid. Then I moved to Liverpool, and my scouse girlfriend called someone a c***. I was shocked, and she said "why? I've got one haven't I?".


Bless the scousers.


These days, I love my swear words. C*** is not one that should be used every other word, it sounds horrid. However, as Brendan said, if used correctly, it's by far the best!

I agree with so much of Domiti anus (hoho) said on 1st page. And it's not the words that are used it's the intention behind their useage. Chris Rock said what the word "nigger" can mean, and that to some it is a swear word. I would not dream of using it even to those who Chris Rock describes as being worthy of the term! It saddens me greatly how the word "gay" is being used as a negative term, but maybe something will come along in its place. I love how kids have new words for things, like "got a touch of the reds" to mean someone (usually a woman) is angry and emotional. That's pretty inventive! But as for religiously offensive words, bring it on. I don't believe in Gods or religions - and so any religious terms that offend - well it's an easy target I suppose. Shouting "Jesus H Christ and ALL her children" can be fun, stand back and watch the fireworks. My favourite swear word is C*&T though, and it is great fun watching people's reactions when I suddenly use it. I remember years ago during a stand up routine Mark Thomas said Vagina Vagina Vagina for about 10 minutes and made the point beautifully. It's just words. If we all use them they lose their meaning and you can't be hurt by them. Kids think they're being really offensive by using the F word all the time but if everyone reacted as if they were saying the word Pepper, or Sofa, the words (and the kids) would lose the power immediately.


I blame the parents. Cu&ts.

I love old literature and it saddens me that "gay" is not used in it's original sense - it's such an evocative word. And my daughter was born on a Sunday so I love quoting: "the child that is born on the Sabbath day, is bonny and blithe and good and gay" - that really doesn't go down too well with today's teens!

I have always told my kids that they can't swear around adults, and if I catch them swearing they get a clap round their head, but once they got to about 10, they started telling me off for swearing which is fu*&*ing irritating.


It worked quite well though, because only one of mine swears at all.

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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I love how kids have new words for things,

> like "got a touch of the reds" to mean someone

> (usually a woman) is angry and emotional.


I thought it meant something that normally happens once every month. Sorry for the curdeness but heck this is the offensive thread.

Bugger is a funny one. It has almost completely lost its literal meaning. If you are sitting around a boardroom table in a meeting and you drop your pen and say ?oh bugger!? nobody will mind that much. But say ?oh bum sex!? and they spill their coffee down their silk ties.


Ties eh? Silly item of clothing. What?s the point? Perhaps a question for another thread.

I agree with many of the above points and feel pretty much like Charlie in the sense that swearing can be a beautiful thng. I love the way foul langauge can be used so creatively in humour. But as with so many other things in life, context is all. In front of kids, please not. in front of parents, not. in the street, why? But in the bedroom, er... yes. in the pub, like, naturally. But if you are going to swear, do so with feeling - swearing is too precious to waste in casual conversation and that's when i hate it. I love swearing, even if I do it rarely, but what everyone should find offensive is hateful language - anything said with venom, whether swearing or not, that's what should be reviled. It's not what you say, it's the way that you say it.

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