Should ED make a stand and boycott News Corporations NOTW

[camberwell70]

'sunonsunday'

Sounds like 'sun nonce sunday'

Will they go for that?

[Laddy Muck]

Tis a serious game Nette....

[maxxi]

camberwell70 Wrote:

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> 'sunonsunday'

> Sounds like 'sun nonce sunday'

> Will they go for that?

Would have thought a paper with such a 'simple' approach might have decided on SUNday.

[georgegarrett]

Well now.....who think the SUN over the last 6+ years never used info hacked from a phone......standby for the next scoop its going to make your **CK** eyes bleed.

[indiepanda]

If the NOTW is just going to be replaced with the Sunday Sun, feels like Murdoch has got away with it... I shouldn't be surprised I suppose.

Has anyone signed the petition to stop to the BSkyB takeover, and a full public inquiry into the Murdoch empire's phone hacking activities?

If you want to, the 38 degrees web site is here - they are up to 100,000 signatures already

http://38degrees.org.uk/

[ianr]

> Oh, and the domain name "sunonsunday" was registered two days ago. Ahem.

That's the .co.uk one, registered to 'mediaspring', who claims to be a non-trading individual. The .com one was actually assigned some years ago.

I'm pretty sure Nominet's rules allow for the challenge of any registered .co.uk domain name which clearly appertains to a going concern rather than to the registrant. So any price offered for it probably boils down to a question of how time-critical it is.

[Annette Curtain]

indiepanda Wrote:

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100,000 signatures already

Oh dear Lady Muck

You missed a massive one there

[StraferJack]

Sun sub-eds have walked out in protest at notw redundancies

Wow... So solidarity and workers rights not as alien a concept as it seemed to some at wapping just a week or two ago

[StraferJack]

Holy moly. Is this real?

[maxxi]

I can hear Murdoch in the distance... "Mwah-hah-hahhh!"

[Frankito]

Bless you Laddymuck, in the midst of all this turmoil you are still up for a game... Praise you!

[Annette Curtain]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Holy moly. Is this real?

Is anyone suprised ?

NO

Is Cameron rushing to do anything ?

NO

It's a http://dellasays.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/cadfudge.jpg

[????]

Personally the best thing about this as that our media spun politicians won't go round in fear of Murdoch so much...they nevertshould have been that scared in the first place.

In reality, the patronising intelligensia view that it 'woz the Sun wot won it' as if the Murdoch empire manipulated the poor britsih public election after election has been much overstated IMO...apparently only Guardian readers have the intelligence to make political decisions not based on their Newspaper readership (ha ha ha)

In fact, the Murdoch papers were actually quite good at jumping on who ever looked like they were gonna win and then claiming they won it for them (not very convincingly last time by the way)and media spun, media consulted. media driven politicains fell for this. Hence Brown and Blair jumping on a plane at short notice to meet The Digger in Singapore in '97 and Cameron taking on the Coulson against advice.....but probably not his ginger neighbours in Oxforshire,

For News International Live by the Sword etc. - I can't see anything but declining influence.

Cameron looks a weak arse out of this and, unfortunately, increasingly like his hero Blair.

The politicians will take this as an opportunity to give the press per se a kicking in revenge for the expenses stuff no doubt

Edited 'cos even I can't allow meat instead of meet

[Moos]

Comments in the article suggest that since NOTW is a title owned by News Corp, the suggestion is incorrect. Which sounds as though it makes sense.

Edited for duh-ness

[????]

I still don't understand Moos - are you on the sauce already?

[Moos]

That was particularly badly phrased, wunt it.

What I meant was, the comments below the article point out that the NOTW is an owned title, not an independent entity, so the suggestion that it could be liquidated, and its records with it, is invalid.

I find it hard to believe that any liquidator couldn't be sub-poena'd anyway, but what say the forum lawyers?

Sozzled Moos

[StraferJack]

"In reality, the patronising intelligensia view that it 'woz the Sun wot won it' as if the Murdoch empire manipulated the poor britsih public election after election has been much overstated IMO...apparently only Guardian readers have the intelligence to make political decisions not based on their Newspaper readership (ha ha ha) "

this paragraph is just weird - for someone who professes to loathe ideology, you don't half have some well-entrenched views of your own quids. Most people I know share your opinion about the Murdochs backing winners. The only people I know who give the "woz the Sun wot won it" any credence (coined by the Sun, not by patronising intelligentsia) are SOME Sun readers. You will probably find examples who believe it from any "side" but to claim it's "patronising intelligentsia" is just.... patronising. And from someone who is intelligent

[????]

I read in the Independent (admittedly) last night that "Neil Kinnock's campaign in 1987 was deystroyed by the Murdoch press"....mmmmmmmm......nothing to do with the fact he was a windbag whose intellect was exposed under pressure (that wouldn't matter now sadly) combined with a strong economy (in much of the country) and a clear conservtive manifesto - I voted Labout that year btw.

I know it was the Sun Starfer.....The use of "the sun wot won it" in my text was using the well known Sun Headline as a generic term for the belief that Murdoch's press decides on our govt.

I regularly hear refeences from the left to the 'Murdoch press deciding our elections' or similar sentiment (undercurrent The plebs are just media manipulated saps). Come on, tell me that's not true? I've seen it on here a fair few times.

It's not ideology it's just pointing out that for many left wing intllectuals when democracy doesn't go their way the electorate are just stooopid plebs manipulated by the media, nicer put of course.

[Ted Max]

The angler casts a lonely fly out over the pond; a polyethylene question mark unfurling, weightless, over the water.

These pools have long been fished out but still he returns with his rod and bait box.

One day, he knows, there will come that old sharp tug and the reel will shit out its line, squealing in fear and joy. And when it does, he will know what to do.

[albertcadwell]

Well i think it is really having your fingers on the pulse, i think this thread was started before it all came crashing down, reading through it there seem to be the usual gobby suspects spouting and laughing.....then the NOTW got shut down.

Its the EDF wot won it !

[Annette Curtain]

Ted Max Wrote:

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> The angler casts a lonely fly out over the pond; a

> polyethylene question mark unfurling, weightless,

> over the water.

>

> These pools have long been fished out but still he

> returns with his rod and bait box.

>

> One day, he knows, there will come that old sharp

> tug and the reel will shit out its line, squealing

> in fear and joy. And when it does, he will know

> what to do.

Ted

Is that a proprietary blend of polyethylene and special copolymers. Built on a nylon monofilament core, with a patent-pending crystal-clear jacket which is naturally lighter than water, eliminating the need for micro-balloons or other agents to make it float.

By any chance ?

NETTE(?)

[ianr]

It's the bleeding pathetic fallacies that rattle me. :(

[LadyDeliah]

The Americans are calling for his US Titles to be investigated! Could this be the beginning of the end for the Murdoch empire?

[MrBen]

Ted Max - beautifully phrased but factually incorrect sir. A true fly fisherman would never carry nor be seen with a "bait box". He would of course carry a fly box.

[MrBen]

But back to Murdoch...

He has enough enemies who have waited in the shadows long enough that he'll be shafted in his efforts for control of BSkyB. Whatever he does now he's lost it.