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[matthew123]

Narnia Wrote:

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> Blind and deaf as ever Matthew.

No I had my ears open - he actually said, "typical Germans, you can't dispute that they're like that". FA might have let him off the hook with those remarks if it was a domestic match - but I think he'll now be charged by UEFA. No need for that xenophobic nonsense especially on national TV.

Interview - http://www.itv.com/sport/football/news/championsleague/matchvideo/videosiralexfergusononmanutdschampionsleagueexit8677/default.html

[Jah Lush]

3-nil and you fukced it up!

[Annasfield]

Whose that shouting in the background? "Cheating bastard ref!! CHEATS CHEATS CHEATS!"

[Narnia]

Are you saying it's not typical of the Germans then Matthew? SAF said they got him sent off by running to the ref whilst observers at the match noticed that he had put his card back in his pocket once he realised he would have to send the player off.

As for it being xenophobic nonsense, he was saying what he thought about a particular type of behaviour. He could probably have included other nationalities too, but United were playing Germans.

[SeanMacGabhann]

The German team displayed comebackability and a resilience which dumped an English team out of the cup - this has happened many times before and is essentiallya compliment - there is nothing xenophobic about it.

He didn't accuse the German's of invading Poland or even stealing the beach towels before anyone else - sheesh

[????]

Matt - what weight line are you using in these waters? etc

[jimmy two times]

There were actually only 5 Germans in the Bayern team and the manager is Dutch.

[SCSB79]

jimmy two times Wrote:

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> There were actually only 5 Germans in the Bayern

> team and the manager is Dutch.

And of the 4 "English" teams not to make it to the semi finals that the media are holding a wake for this morning, how many English players represent them, along with an English manager??!!

Arsenal - 1 player (Walcott). Manager = French.

Chelsea - 2 players (Terry & Lampard - can't count Cole as he's hardly played this year). Manager = Italian.

Liverpool - 2 players (Gerrard & Carragher - don't think there are any more). Manager = Spanish.

Man U - 2 last night (Ferdinand & Rooney - suppose you could add Neville & Scholes to that so 4). Manager = Scottish.

So out of a possible 48 players and managers being from an English league, less than 20% of the staff are English. Probably not even bought with "English" money either!

I expect my figures above are wrong and stand to be corrected.

[jimmy two times]

You also forgot Carrick for Man U. I'd also include players from the British Isles in general so you could add Fletcher, Gibson, Giggs. Man U do pretty well on this front but Arsenal's quota of British players is shocking.

Anyway, my point about the low amount of German players in Bayern team was because Fergie called Bayern typical Germans.

[Annasfield]

SCSB79 - Yes they are horrendously wrong, so wrong in fact I can't be arsed to correct you.

[Narnia]

jimmy two times Wrote:

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> There were actually only 5 Germans in the Bayern

> team and the manager is Dutch.

It was those 5 who got him booked!

[matthew123]

Narnia Wrote:

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> Are you saying it's not typical of the Germans then Matthew?

Why is it typical? On what basis do you agree with Ferguson. It infers that all Germans are conmen and that the British Isles is one of fair play.

[SCSB79]

Annasfield Wrote:

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> SCSB79 - Yes they are horrendously wrong, so wrong

> in fact I can't be arsed to correct you.

Why bother replying then? What did I get so wrong?

[jimmy two times]

I don't think your stats were that wrong.

[Sandperson]

Fergie's comments are a bit silly. He likes to lash out when he's beaten and I can't see it being any more than that. I can't defend the comments if they were meant in amy sort of jingoistic way. We were knocked out by two soft and easily preventable goals and some petulism from a young, inexperienced player. The way we played on the whole gave me heart as it's some of the best play I've seen from united this season. I just hope Rooney is fit for some of the run in.

[Narnia]

matthew123 Wrote:

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> Narnia Wrote:

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> > Are you saying it's not typical of the Germans

> then Matthew?

>

> Why is it typical? On what basis do you agree with

> Ferguson. It infers that all Germans are conmen

> and that the British Isles is one of fair play.

As Quids suggested you were, maybe try fishing somewhere else?

[jimmy two times]

I wouldn't say Robben's goal was a soft goal Sandperson. It was absolutely brilliant and required excellent technique.

[matthew123]

Narnia - its not me who is fishing..

I've made my point and it is dismissed by yourself on nothing more than the belief that Ferguson is beyond reproach. Rather than saying i'm blind and deaf i suggest you watch the video url i posted then make your judgement.

[woofmarkthedog]

jimmy two times Wrote:

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> I wouldn't say Robben's goal was a soft goal

> Sandperson. It was absolutely brilliant and

> required excellent technique.

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That...

Goal was bloody fantastic , quality & inspired

What was "soft" about it ? you'd need your head checked if you thought that

W**F

[SCSB79]

jimmy two times Wrote:

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> I don't think your stats were that wrong.

I forgot Johnson, Carrick & Ashley Cole I think. Still, around the 20% mark doesn't make those teams very English.

[Mick Mac]

Narnia Wrote:

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> jimmy two times Wrote:

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> > There were actually only 5 Germans in the

> Bayern

> > team and the manager is Dutch.

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> It was those 5 who got him booked!

Typical.

[jimmy two times]

I think the only German who was trying to get him booked was Bastian Schweinhunt.

But it was a disgrace the way they Wolfganged up on the Ref.

[ratty]

English Top 4 side gets taste of own medicine!

They don't like it up 'em do they!

PMSL!

PUP!

[????]

Good point Ratty, I've always giggled a bit about the 'big 4' bleeting on about refs decisions, bias and penalties.

[Jah Lush]

That sums it up in a nutshell ratty and ????. Ferguson, Wenger and Benitez are the biggest moaners when it comes to refereeing decisions.