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Matt, I'm not on a wind-up here, just genuinely interested in yours and others thoughts on Torres staying if a) European football is on the cards and b) if Rafa goes over the summer?


He seems to love the club and be loyal but would either of these occurences cause him to go?

He'd be off like a shot I reckon. Liverpool's problem is they've picked a very bad time to be poor with Spurs being good and City on the way by buying to being better than that. Liverpool may well have played their last Champion's League game for a few years, and the players know it.

No I don't think Torres would leave if Rafa left, in fact I'd say players are more likely to stay if a new Manager arrived (as long as it wasn't someone like Ian Dowie). Besides that who exactly is Torres going to join as it's not going to be an English Club or Real Madrid which leaves only Barcelona.. but are they going to spend ?60/70m+ (assuming Reds would be willing to offload their prize asset with 3 years left on his contract) ?


BTW, we're talking Liverpool here and players at the big boys never walk out... not Spurs, Villa, West Ham or Citeh ;-)

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> Bale looks the business...Evra's eventual

> replacement Jah ;-)

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> Feck off. You can't afford him.


Not that I believe a word the Express prints, but... Fergie, Fergie, Sign Him Up...

Much as I like the idea of the romance of Pompey being in Europe I don't see why they should be. The rules are clear and they didn't follow them, end of.


Pleased for West Ham as well. What I'd be extra pleased to see is them safe before the last game so City can beat them while they relax..

Personally ratty I'd rather Liverpool pulled out of Europa League next season if it's a case of us stopping Pompey from playing in Europe (and of course playing on a bloody Sunday every other week!! :X ) - assuming of course we don't automatically qualify by winning it in May.

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> I'm not sure Ruffers. It's the businessmen who put

> the club out of business not the players anf the

> fans.


My heart agrees with you but where do you draw the line? Once rules get bent you have problems..


It's an unfortunate fact of life that football clubs have fans, and when the clubs misbehave the fans suffer eg Calciopoli in Italy. I think it becomes an interesting point when you stop calling companies Football Clubs, and substitute it with the word Football Company - that's what they are. Now, if a company breaks rules, it's much clearer. The word Club clouds our thinking, and the concept of fans as opposed to loyal customers doesn't help.


That was my head writing btw.

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